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  •  People calling for the elimination of all guns (3+ / 0-)
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    are on the fringe and will never get their way, or anything close to it. The 2nd, plus the gazillions of very well organized gun owners in the US, assure that. To be afraid of this is to reveal oneself as not serious about this issue. There are environmental radicals calling for the elimination of cars, yet despite all cars being registered and drivers license, somehow that hasn't happened, despite there not being an amendment about cars or driving.

    To fear that licensing will lead to confiscation is simply silly. Now, if you want to make a civil liberties argument against licensing, on 4th amendment grounds, then I might be more amenable to persuasion.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 03:12:56 PM PDT

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    •  really? (0+ / 0-)

      because we have our share of what you call "fringe" here on kos who wholeheartedly believe that ALL guns should only be in the hands of police and the military.

      I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not.…We're better than this. We must do better. Cmdr Scott Kelley

      by wretchedhive on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 04:05:02 PM PDT

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      •  And I'm not one of them (0+ / 0-)

        Nor have I come across many. And I spend a lot of time here. I'm not anti-gun, or anti-gun owner. I'm anti-guns no civilian should own and anti-illegitimate gun owner (e.g. mentally ill, felon) of any gun.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 04:31:18 PM PDT

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        •  which guns are those that no civilian should own, (0+ / 0-)

          And why?

          Before you answer, remember that cops are civilians.

          I actually have a clear,  concise answer to this question, one that will pass a strict scrutiny analysis... do you?


          "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
          "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

          by Leftie Gunner on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:46:06 PM PDT

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