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  •  hey- what you said about the video games- (7+ / 0-)

    my girls are like that too

    I gave my girls each a ds for xmas a few years back- they could have cared less. their dad gave them a wii two years ago and they used it maybe 2x.

    I have a few friends who keep very neat tidy houses- their kids play wii and xbox.  they would never, ever let their kids do the stuff my kids do. my kids wander from one project or drawing or painting or experiment to another. even in the kitchen- they like to make lemonade from scratch, so I always have a bag of lemons in the fridge. they do it themselves, start to finish.

    I also frame a lot of their stuff and hang it- sometimes I just tape it to the wall though.

    some of my friends just could not cope w/ the level of chaos we have going on here sometimes- i'd rather have it though and know my kids are learning and having fun. when they're a little older it might be easier to contain things, but right now I don't really try. the neighbor kids like it here, too.

    every once in a while i'll say something like "do you understand why i'm upset?" that's reserved for when they're not even trying to clean up, though.

    "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

    by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 11:30:04 AM PDT

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    •  My house is also in chaos (6+ / 0-)

      with projects in progress all over the place - indoors and out. My boys like video games; my daughter not at all. But they all have the freedom to explore their passions, make messes, creative and not, some responsibility around bringing order to chaos....and play video games. You don't have to sacrifice creativity, have one cancel out the other. One of my son's friends has started creating his own games, playing with programming.

      And we have friends who have "just so" homes. My kids are never sure how to behave in those environments. They clam up and become stiff -- getting outside the house helps loosen them up.

      I've had a couple people tell me my house has a nice feel, even when it's totally cluttered. Not dirty, just cluttered. Ok, maybe a little dirty... :)

      •  you just reminded me of what that dad did- (7+ / 0-)

        Dad Hacks 'Donkey Kong' for Daughter, Makes Pauline Rescue Mario

        When video game developer Mike Mika taught his 3-year-old daughter to play the Nintendo game "Donkey Kong," he had no idea he was about to make a statement on gender roles in the gaming world.

        Ellis, Mika's daughter, took an instant liking to the game, but wanted one tiny accommodation. She wanted to play a female character who climbs up the ladders and jumps over the baskets to rescue a male character, rather than playing a man who rescues a woman.
        ....

        Rather than introduce his 3-year-old to a modern female-led game, which could come with too much violence for his daughter, Mika said he decided to hack Donkey Kong to suit his needs.
        ....

        Saturday morning, Mika presented Ellis with the finished product: a fully working version of "Donkey Kong" in which Pauline is the main character and must rescue Mario, held captive by Donkey Kong at the end of each level.

        "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

        by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 01:18:02 PM PDT

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        •  forgot why this came to mind- (3+ / 0-)
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          the dad said he started hacking when he was a kid- now he has a career in computer programming.

          "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

          by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 01:20:58 PM PDT

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        •  And there's a dad setting an example (4+ / 0-)

          not only of feminism, but of creativity.

          A lot of people don't realize, when they see kids playing videogames, how often that turns into hacking games, creating games, creating art for games, etc. Games on the computer are an inspiration to creativity in the same way that real-world games are.

          And it's easy to nurture that sort of creativity. Once you have the computer, the 'materials' for each project cost nothing, and the sky is genuinely the limit.

          "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

          by kyril on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 04:53:48 PM PDT

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      •  ok, maybe a little dirty... (2+ / 0-)
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        yeah, when my brother came to visit a few years back he said what so many say about our house: "It feels lived in- but in a good way..."
        Clean enough to be healthy, cluttered enough to be happy, I always say. Meanwhile Don't Panic, and always have a towel handy!
        My favorite words with the under-five set: "Oh sure- you can use that..."

      •  Sounds like our house for about 17 years (2+ / 0-)
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        Two boys - projects and experiments of all sorts, both inside and out.  Water displacement exercises were very popular in the early years, creating a good bit of havoc.  My husband eventually bought/made them a plastic canal system with locks and dams - to play with only on the deck.  

        They both turned into engineers, btw.

        The truth always matters.

        by texasmom on Fri Mar 22, 2013 at 07:15:56 AM PDT

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