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  •  You are spot-on about kids seeing the drudgery (6+ / 0-)

    of it all.  And about sports as escapism.  I find it amusing that we are both 'a religious nation' and 'the world's greatest democracy', but it is impolite to talk about religion or politics.  I think that says a lot about the frailty of our psychies and how we seek escapism through sports or other means.

    To any wingnut: If you pay my taxes I'll give you a job.

    by ban48 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 09:18:59 AM PDT

    •  I have no problem with sports as escapism (3+ / 0-)
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      Diane Gee, mrkvica, Chi

      Or even as a way out for a lucky tiny percentage. I also enjoy watching sports. The problem is the deification, that because they are athletes they are above the law and any standards of human decency. And expecting them to live by the laws of civilized society is "ruining their lives".

      •  stereotyping generally is never a good thing (2+ / 0-)
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        Wood Dragon, sethtriggs

        the problem is not athletes or athletics.  It is certain places, or people who abuse or use it as an excuse.  Most athletes are just regular folks who exercise more and better.  And those who reach professional status are like anyone else: there's good and there's middle and there's bad apples.  My husband is a former professional athlete, with 2 Olympic and 4 world championship medals in a sport that is considered "violent" by some (hockey).  He was raised by a single mother.  Was he "worshiped" in some sense by some?  Singled out?  yep; But he was raised to be a strong, good man who sees the benefits of being physically fit, of being competitive with rules, and of communal activity to a common goal.  Of course, he was raised in Scandinavia.

         He is also able to live easily with a strong, independent feminist and even identify himself as one.  And through my husband, and my next door NYC neighbor and occasional Starbucks buddy Derek Jeter, I've met many many good athletes.  

        I don't say this to praise him (well, I do love him).  I say it because it's not just sports; or men; or culture; or economics; or parenting; or mob mentality; or alcohol; or bad genes...it's the combo platter of all that can create the circumstances.  What is never is:  it is never the cause or consequence of the actions of single female victim.  

        And as for the victim:  it's a sad tale that those of us who have often been involved in criminal cases see all to often: people tend to blame the victim especially if the victim is "like them" because they need to disassociate themselves sufficiently to convince themselves it wouldn't happen to them.  Hence the "I wouldn't wear that; walk there; drink that much; answer the door, etc. etc.  

        Bottom line:  these guys were bad seeds which had a lot of "water" from a lot of sources to grow into what they are.  

        •  The run isn't atheletes (3+ / 0-)
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          sethtriggs, mrkvica, Chi

          at all - its the societal deification of them, and the equal lack of worship for men like Salk, who gave us the Polio vaccine.

          Nobody want to grow up and save the world anymore, they want to grow up rich and famous, with all the second set of rules that class has...

          ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

          by Diane Gee on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 11:57:25 AM PDT

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