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  •  If Hilary Clinton makes the decision to run (8+ / 0-)

    I think its clear that she's the Democratic nominee.

    I'm a DFH, I absolutely despise the DLC model, the Blue Dogs and their tactics, and triangulation. People can posit the notion, and argue endlessly back and forth over "is she to the Right or Left of Obama" going forward. It doesn't matter. Any more than it matters if I've got my own hesitations and reservations or internal debate about the pro v. con of two terms of Hilary. I can see the writing on the wall from here. She gets in and the Blue version of the Red Sea is going to part. I don't see how it doesn't. I don't see a pathway to somebody else getting the nomination if she's healthy, committed, and in.

    She'll have opposition, but not serious opposition.

    I think I even see the honey argument that will be made towards non-Centrists to get on board early. And that is the non-Centrist potential for progressive gains in a significant Democratic wave election. She'll have huge coattails in a big win, and it's not out of the question that, if the GOP sees a mugging coming, a lot of the big fish will seriously reconsider being the sacrificial lamb to the Hilary Slaughter. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are not going to run to lose. Neither is Chris Christie. I could see the GOP killing two birds with one stone and nominating somebody the establishment would like to see crushed for their own purposes of maintaining order and control but who also would be a purity candidate who keeps the Righties eating shit with a spoon right up until the moment they get crushed.

    If Hilary runs, Paul Ryan and Brian Sandoval vs. Hilary Clinton and Brian Schweitzer is a lot more likely than Jeb Bush Brian Sandoval or Marco Rubio Chris Christie vs that scary ticket.

    You can dislike Hilary Clinton, or Bill Clinton for that matter, and still see the likely outcome ahead. There isn't a Democrat who is going to beat her, the GOP is going to shit itself, and there could be the potential for the biggest Democratic wave election in my lifetime.

    There's no Obama, or Obama-esque figure, who is going to come in and out-transformational figure her, I would argue that some of the very people who helped Obama beat her will be working for her campaign, the most viable and logical alternative establishment candidates are going to flee such a contest, because it will pay dividends with the party establishment later on win or lose, and the people who do choose to run are going to be running to make a name for themselves in future contests and I doubt any of them will do so via a 'Scorch Hilary' platform.

    She runs, she wins.

    That, and I think it's the GOP's worst nightmare because she's going to beat the GOP nominee in places the GOP cannot afford to lose to any Democrat. If the GOP is on the defensive in Texas and Florida before the contest even begins, 2016 becomes a possible Democratic wave election. Maybe the biggest in my lifetime.

    Hilary Clinton running also spares the Democratic Party what I believe would be a crushing outcome for 2016, which would be Andrew Cuomo getting absolutely crushed like an empty aluminum can by the GOP nominee's campaign, the shitstorm of shit from Citizen's United cash, the Village transforming Cuomo into Dukakis 88 meets Gore 2000, and the RW echochamber putting a dollop of shit on top like whipped cream on a feces pieces sundae. I can't imagine a worse outcome for the Democratic Party than to wake up to find Andrew Cuomo as our standard bearer. Choosing Cuomo over Clinton, if he even runs at all if Hilary is in, would be like choosing to jump into a wood chipper vs choosing to win the Super Bowl.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 08:20:10 PM PDT

    •  What a great comment! (2+ / 0-)
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      Bravo, wish I had written it.

      I completely agree with every single word of it.  

      Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore. John Prine -8.00,-5.79

      by Miss Blue on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 08:34:02 PM PDT

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      You can dislike Hilary Clinton, or Bill Clinton for that matter, and still see the likely outcome ahead. There isn't a Democrat who is going to beat her, the GOP is going to shit itself, and there could be the potential for the biggest Democratic wave election in my lifetime.
      Is this a "Blast from the Past" post from 2006?

      Give it a break already on the Unsinkable Hillary Clinton. It was inevitable she would be the nominee in 2008, remember? Nothing like good old conventional wisdom to really rally the troops.

      NO CE/CW. NO UNION BUSTING

      by Aeolos on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 09:33:10 PM PDT

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    •  Younger, ambitious Democrats say "No Sale" (0+ / 0-)

      I think back to that ancient even in the distant past, the 2012 Democratic National Convention, and I recall a day when Daily Kos was giddy with the deep and inspiring Democratic roll call. But today all that is forgotten because a high name recognition candidate is polling high during the deadest part of the presidential political doldrums.

      OK, whatever. I'll bet a frosty cold Coke against all comers. You get Hillary Clinton to take the 2016 Democratic nomination, I get everyone else on Earth. And I still get the Coke if Hillary Clinton simply chooses not to run.

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