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  •  Paul Ryan's Groundhog Day "Budget" (0+ / 0-)

    It keeps crashing and burning and yet comes back - over and over again. Sort of like the constantly reincarnated "Repeal Obamacare" bill.

    It's time for a psychiatrist's intervention. I think they've finally gone off the deep end. No longer able to differentiate their pipe-dreams from the real world.

    For Christ's sake, let's help more of our frightened people get through this thing, whatever it is - Kurt Vonnegut on our "faithless custodians of capital"

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Fri Mar 22, 2013 at 05:27:11 PM PDT

    •  Like the scary movies they show on cable (5+ / 0-)

      In the last 5 minutes. Just when you think the killer's dead, his hand pops out from behind the door before the screen fades to black (and the sequel comes out a year later).

      Same thing with the Ryan budget.

      A village can not reorganize village life to suit the village idiot.

      by METAL TREK on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 08:33:49 PM PDT

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      •  Aside from it's obvious to most denial of (1+ / 0-)
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        political reality, it really can be boiled down to one central not good for the GOP message of 'tax cuts for the rich'.

         And that is easy to message against. It just worked last November and nothing much has happened to change peoples opinion on that.

         At least the beltway media mob, after being so in thrall to the wonky numbers whiz kid persona that Ryan sold himself as, are showing signs of, at least, mild questioning and, in one or two instances, actual criticism.

         Maybe they might even come to realize that wonder boy is 0 for 3 in budgets and finally reveal the Emperors barren closet for duplicitous ruse that it is.......

        it tastes like burning...

        by eastvan on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 01:32:08 AM PDT

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        •  The purpose of federal tax collections is (2+ / 0-)
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          recycling. The object is to keep the currency moving through the economy and the Treasury so we don't keep having to issue new dollars. Taxation is to counter the propensity to hoard. On the other hand, the sequester being perpetrated by the Congress is just a fancy word for rationing and rationing, as we all know, prompts hoarding. So, the sequester is counter-productive, if the intent was to get the money moving.
          Which it's not. Congress is being punitive because the electorate voted wrong. The "advantage" of incumbency has gone out the window. 2010 saw the arrival of 93 freshmen in the house. 2012 saw the election of 67 new members. It's no wonder the old guard is in a dither.

          We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

          by hannah on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 03:16:03 AM PDT

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        •  The GOP is very good at incrementalism, (2+ / 0-)
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          and the Democrats had better catch onto their game before their own winning policies are slowly overtaken by the Overton Window.  Incrementalism has worked for Republicans since WWII - two steps forward, one step back.  It's worked with tax cuts for the rich, abortion restrictions, weakening of regulations and myriad other policies the public doesn't agree with, but which continue, little by little, to be implemented.  Democrats tend to make headway in giant, public leaps usually resulting from responding to a public outrage (e.g., Roe v. Wade, Glass-Steaglall), which are soon forgotten or taken for granted.  Then Republicans begin whittling back the forward momentum in private agreements and back rooms until their the momentum is reversed.  Consequently Democrats find themselves fighting the same battles over and over.

          Over the years Dem's playing defense has resulted in a rightward shift to the whole philosophy of governing which until recently has been imperceptible.  Only in retrospect, when we realize how far to the right today's Republicans are from Richard Nixon - even Ronald Reagan - can we appreciate the power the right wing has amassed how that has stymied the country's forward progress.

          Karl Rove was right, and we ignored what he was telling us:

          That's not the way the world really works anymore.  We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 04:10:34 AM PDT

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    •  Except as other have noted (0+ / 0-)

      That Mom DOES not balance her budget....

      For starters she has a mortgage--a loan that she is paying off monthly that is usually MASSIVELY larger than her annual income.

      She also has a car loan, student loans, and a plethora of credit cards....LOANS LOANS LOANS!!

      Sounds like if you look at her budget, she has a large amount of debt that she is paying off incrementally.

      And if, perhaps, there is a disaster, like some dumbass like George Bush crashes the economy and she has to help out her brother so he doesn't lose his house to foreclosure while unemployed, she will take out a HOME EQUITY LOAN.

      Why does conservative=double dumbass in Amurrika?

      •  Budgets never refer to just cash. (1+ / 0-)
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        That's another reason why the "balanced budget" thing is a gimmick. I actually think Al Gore started it. The Cons are just being imitative. That's their main modus operandi -- imitation and repetition, which is a kind of imitation.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 03:19:48 AM PDT

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