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  •  I'm not sure you read that article very carefully. (0+ / 0-)

    It cites a depressed economy as a principle cause of the reduction, forecasts an increase as the economy improves, ignores the other consequences of fracking for natural gas and neglects to mention how much of our manufacturing is now being done in other countries with little in the way of environmental regulations.

    Pretty poor bit of journalism.

    "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

    by quillsinister on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 07:39:14 AM PDT

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    •  I read the entire thing,,, including how improved (0+ / 0-)

      fuel efficiency in autos is also a factor and how during both other down turns due to oil embargo and oil war the US always increased green house gasses.

      Fracking has caused a dramatic reduction of green house gasses, and yes, those gasses will still increase until we see an end to Netroots Nation.

      Americans, including environmentalists burn too many hydrocarbons. I see no difference between off road drivers shooting signs and anti XL demonstrators. All pollute, those who fly pollute the most.

      How big is your personal carbon footprint?

      by ban nock on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 07:47:49 AM PDT

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      •  And yet it says quite plainly, (0+ / 0-)

        "Fuel economy performance for cars and trucks is still among the worst in the developed world."

        And fracking, while it produces fewer carbon emissions, is fraught with other issues. Frankly, IMHO, deliberate contamination of a freshwater aquifer should be a capital offense.

        Oh, but eliminating Netroots will turn the tide, will it? Yes, I'm sure that's the one thing holding us back.

        Sigh.

        "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

        by quillsinister on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 08:00:24 AM PDT

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        •  Well I guess some just see bad in everything (0+ / 0-)

          find a bag a money on the ground and complain about how heavy it is and couldn't they have written a check.

          I have a well, they frack here, in my town. My water comes from 30-100 foot, they frack at 1000 to 2500.

          Truth is we Americans burn tons of oil. When liberal environmentally conscious activists won't stop burning it I just won't get all het up.

          Like they say, don't tell me how to reduce greenhouse gasses, tell me what your personal carbon footprint is.

          How big is your personal carbon footprint?

          by ban nock on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 12:27:12 PM PDT

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          •  Here's a better analogy: (0+ / 0-)

            It's like complaining that what looked like just a bag of money is actually wired to a bomb that destroys an irreplaceable supply of freshwater.

            I suppose if I were incapable of seeing the world except through the lens of profit, I might have misplaced priorities, too. Water transcends profit. There's too little of it, and too many indications that fracking threatens it. Maybe that isn't the case with your personal well, but your well is also not the country.

            "Forecast for tomorrow? A few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" -Stewie Griffin

            by quillsinister on Sat Mar 23, 2013 at 01:50:44 PM PDT

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