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  •  who should have to make sewer pipes? (0+ / 0-)

    Who are you OK with doing the work that you don't want to do?

    I don't think that anybody should have to work in the sewer; it's the only ethical position to take if I don't want to work in the sewer myself, otherwise I'm left arguing that it's good enough for some people.  The consequence of that is that I need to develop alternatives to the sewer rather than putting lipstick on the pig of sewer work.

    •  No one should have to work in a sewer, but... (1+ / 0-)
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      once bargaining parity is established, there's no reason there would be a shortage of people willing to do it for the likely very high wages and benefits they'd get.  Pay people enough, and a job does become consensual no matter how awful.  If prostitutes were paid $50,000 per blowjob, people would be abandoning law careers and office manager positions to become hos.  

      Business doesn't distinguish between making money and taking money.

      by Troubadour on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 04:13:45 PM PDT

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    •  Call me when... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...and only when, you've developed these alternatives.

      But until that happy day, we need people to work in the sewers. The only ethical way to get them to do it is by offering them cash.

      •  And not just sewers (2+ / 0-)
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        eztempo, Troubadour

        Mining.
        Plastics.
        HVAC systems.
        Fixing downed power lines.
        Hell, farming.

        All unpleasant activities, all necessary. All need someone motivated by money to do them.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 09:29:22 AM PDT

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