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  •  I agree with your first paragraph completely (1+ / 0-)
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    However the second one I don't entirely agree with. Sure, there is much land in Israel proper that was not acquired through what most people who say was lawful means. But there is much that was.

    The original core of what would become Israel was mostly lawfully acquired, even if sometimes through sneaky land purchases from the absentee Ottoman and Arab landlords of the lands in question who didn't really care what would happen to the Arab and Bedouin tenants living on them.

    I'm talking about the original pre-British Mandate era from the late 19th century through the end of WWI. Of course, it's undeniable that much of the land was stolen, or acquired through the "spoils of war" principle, especially during the 1948-9 war of independence.

    But that's ancient history that no one's about to reverse, no matter how much Hamas & Hezbollah claim otherwise, mostly for political reasons. At this point we're talking about post-67 borders and how that will be resolved. The pre-67 borders are pretty much frozen, other than land swaps in any final deal.

    I personally find the whole "Israel should never have been founded because it was founded on stolen land" argument to be not just academic, but strained, because this could be said of every country in the Americas, including, of course, the US, where native peoples continue to be robbed of their lands, yet few people are calling for it to be returned to them.

    I also believe that the 2-state solution is at best a mid-term one. In the long run there can only be one state, because the growing Arab population within Israel proper, and the economic non-viability of any proposed Palestine, make that inevitable, making Israel as a truly Jewish state a long-term impossibility. But in the end that will be to the benefit of both sides, even though it may also one day lead to a civil war and redivision, this time on more realistic lines.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 07:18:36 AM PDT

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