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    For the past 4 years I have networked with a large group of unemployed people (we call ourselves the 99ers). Not one person, nor anyone they know, nor anyone THEY know, knows of one single person who took this (CPS) survey. One would think that if the Labor Department really sampled 50,000 different households every month, we would have heard from somebody after 4 years.

    •  Bud - it's a sample (1+ / 0-)
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      And we have tens of millions of households. The survey has been done in the same manner for decades which is one of the reason the data is well regarded. The sample sizes are much larger than any normal survey done for the media, so the margin of error is small. The important point is that no one "drops off" the unemployment data and "isn't counted". The three primary data sources on employment and unemployment, the BLS data, the payroll data, and the unemployment compensation data are all independent of each other and economists use them all to look at different pieces of the employment/unemployment situation.

      The fact that you don't know anyone who has been part of the survey is anecdotal, its not data.  

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 01:24:12 PM PDT

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      •  I have personal been included in survey. (1+ / 0-)
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        The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

        by nextstep on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 02:15:19 PM PDT

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      •  However, if you look at all the reports you will (1+ / 0-)
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        notice that they have stopped using unemployment statistics pretty much altogether and have switched to first time unemployment claims as the thing they look at.  Just ask Meteor Blades if you don't believe me.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 04:25:57 PM PDT

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        •  Throw - Bud wrote that some people (0+ / 0-)

          "stop being counted". I just wanted to make the point that the unemployment data collected and published by the BLS, and the reports on unemployment compensation, such as first time claims, are independent of each other. Many seem to feel that when your extended unemployment benefits run out you are no longer counted as unemployed and that's not correct. The two data sources are independent.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Mon Mar 25, 2013 at 06:04:08 PM PDT

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