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  •  Thanks for clarifying your meaning. (1+ / 0-)
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    One sure-fire way I have of pissing off certain of my fellow Christians is to say about any number of Paulianisms they are unwittingly spouting in the name of Jesus, "Well, Paul is entitled to his opinion."

    "The fears of one class of men are not the measure of the rights of another." ~ George Bancroft (1800-1891)

    by JBL55 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 12:28:50 PM PDT

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    •  Yep, Paul is a real problem... (1+ / 0-)
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      He wrote first in an era when there was little difference between opinion, fantasy and of course, "history", as we know it.

      So, Paul's tales of appearances of Jesus to him could be no better than Joseph Smith's tales of appearances of angels and others. Sadly, we know of no way that a dead person can appear again.

      All of this fantasy morphed into theology before even Poor Mark wrote the first gospel (Mark stopped when the tomb was empty and the people ran away). Then a Matthew wrote after the fall of Jerusalem. Some say that the John Gospel was written about 20 years after the fall of Jerusalem and during the reign of the mad Emperor Domitian. It is possible that Luke/Acts might have been written as late as the first part of the 2nd century. Each one of those gospels and others had the chance to absorb Paul's "theology".

      Thus Paulism lives and the Way was placed in the background as those who fervently knew Jesus, passed that Kerygma to their kids, and then died, were unable to write an accurate account OR after the Paulists burned the documents of the Way, only some of them surviving.

      The whole mess is a serious blot on the good name of Jesus.

      Ugh. --UB.

      "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

      by unclebucky on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 09:18:18 PM PDT

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      •  Which is why ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... studying it for oneself is such a good idea.

        I'll never forget the first time I read about David and Saul as an adult and thought, "Poor Saul."  Then I read further about poor Bathsheba and thought, "David was a real scumbag!" But kids aren't taught about David sending Uriah the honorable and dutiful Hittite to his death, nor do they learn about how Nathan held up the mirror and David's reaction.  And that's just one small part of the Bible.

        If more Christians read the Sermons on the Mount/Plain more often and were given only occasional doses of Paulian opinions couched as such, Christianity would look very different.

        "The fears of one class of men are not the measure of the rights of another." ~ George Bancroft (1800-1891)

        by JBL55 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 05:32:50 AM PDT

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