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  •  Your neighbors scare me (16+ / 0-)

    Trespassing is against the law, and they are practically breaking and entering now.  At what point do you say, 'enough is enough'?

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    by Khun David on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 06:36:47 AM PDT

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    •  Not sure. (13+ / 0-)

      I've discussed this with Mrs grog.  I'm ready to go to the sheriff on the next instance.  She's not convinced.

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      by grog on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 07:00:45 AM PDT

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      •  Go!! If something happens because you wait (10+ / 0-)

        you will feel horrid. You don't want the first time you talk to the Sheriff about them to be the time when things have all gone completely sideways. If nothing else get it down in the records that they are a problem. Official complaint to start the file puts you in a better place if later something really bad happens. It may also prove to them you are serious and make them stay away for good. Not as likely but possible.

      •  Different state, but... (9+ / 0-)

        I agree with Khun David -- go to the sheriff. Puppy murderers are not reasonable people.

        My good friend and her neighbors were being harassed by some semi-deranged people in a nearby apartment complex. They claimed that barking dogs were keeping them from sleeping. They filed 17(!) noise and nuisance complaints with the city. My friend and her neighbors had to go to the hearing office EACH TIME to argue their case, explaining the noise abatement measures they'd instituted, etc. The clerks apologized after about the 5th, but they were following the statute. The clerks finally complained to the county judge, who told them to ignore duplicate complaints on this issue.

        The semi-deranged people then started knocking on the front and back doors of my friend's and her neighbor's houses, trying to get the dogs to bark so they could record it, and were caught throwing dog treats over the back fence trying to get the dogs to come closer to videotape them barking.  

        The police and sheriff's depts. told my friend that unless the semi-deranged people actually caused damage (e.g., poisoning a pet, breaking the fence), law enforcement can't stop them.

        One of the cops took them aside and said to put up signs that said "So-and-so and Whats-his-name are not permitted to enter this property at any time. Any such entry is considered trespassing and will be prosecuted as such." Then they'd have a reasonable hope of suing the semi-deranged for trespassing. They call the police now whenever the semi-deranged people come around, and so far that's worked, but it's also a good record to show to a judge.

        It's just a stop-gap, since the only permanent solution would be for the semi-deranged people to move somewhere else.

        + + + That crazy neighbor, you know, the one with all those cats

        by cvannatta on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 09:39:43 AM PDT

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      •  Make a complaint!!! (6+ / 0-)

        Faithfully.  E-v-e-r-y time the Puppy Murderers do something nasty, report the incident to law enforcement.  And/or keep a diary of exact dates & precise times & description of any incidents you observe of the Puppy Murderers' behavior, even if you don't think it's bad enough to call law enforcement.  You want a written record, preferably from law enforcement where info is public record, and exact dates, times, and "impartial" descriptions from a third party have their behavior on record.

        Trust me, you WANT an accurate record of the trespasses and disturbances on public record (backed up by a diary record) when Puppy Murderers do something that causes harm to someone - either you, Mrs grog, or your pets or rescues, or visitors or tenants.  It lets law enforcement and a judge and/or jury know the Puppy Murderers have a history of aggravating behavior that is (or borders on) illegal, and is always downright rude, crude, harmful to animals (and/or humans), and otherwise unwelcome.

        When law enforcement people remember their names without prompting, this is to your advantage when the Puppy Murderers escalate their behavior.

        From the sounds of it (entering your property to talk to the tenants, entering your property to talk to someone who is a guest at your B&B a while back), that's just what they're intending to do: escalate their behavior by recruiting people to work against you somehow - or trash your property so it will cause repairs to have to be made, which will cost you a small fortune in money and/or time.

        Really, you want their names before law enforcement and justice personnel, with them being the aggressors and you being the victim.  In the end, it will matter.

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        by NonnyO on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:17:08 AM PDT

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      •  You should go. There's a legal principle called (4+ / 0-)

        "laches".  In brief, if you put up with something long enough, a court may deem that you've accepted it.  It's an English common law principle so it may be relevant in American law too. I'm not a lawyer; my explanation is very, very rudimentary and meant just as a heads up.  

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        by Observerinvancouver on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 10:47:51 AM PDT

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