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  •  Until gunpowder was brought in from China... (16+ / 0-)

    ...in the 1400s and weapons like muskets and artillery became possible, killing in battle was close and personal once you got past the arrows.

    Once you have killed someone with a sword, IMO you change.  You perceive the damage you have done to the other human being instantly and close up.

    To the degree that you can immunize yourself from any emotions you can be an effective combatant.

    The Romans were more practiced and experienced than anyone else.  Their tactics and weapons evolved over centuries of war.  Once they beat the Greeks and the Carthaginians they became the best at this brutal practice (a bit ironic since Brutus killed Caesar with a knife, therefore the word).

    And perhaps there was a bit of revenge in the Roman minds.  Rome was sacked by the Gauls 300 years before.

    Life expectancy was short then, life was cheap.  The Roman Circus was a bloody affair.

    The Romans knew they would win.  Caesar was a great leader.  The gauls were more of a disorganized civilization.  They were "barbarians".  The Romans were a warrior civilization.  They fought and won battles (and lost a few) with all sorts of people throughout their empire for almost 1000 years continuously.

    Many (specially the neo-cons) think of America as the New Rome.

    Like Rome we have gone from the draft to a volunteer military.  And like the Romans we are drifting to mercenaries, excuse me "contractors".

    I don't know what the Romans and Gauls were thinking.  My question is what are WE thinking?

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    by Shockwave on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 09:50:07 AM PDT

    •  Thinking? (4+ / 0-)

      "To kill, or not to kill?  That is the question."

      Whether it is nobler to go onward, without examining and thinking, to a brutal and unconscious death; or to stop and think how to match the awesome technologies of our weapons and scientific advances with the growth of a similar level of ethical consciousness.

      I think the latter is the mandated adaptation we are required to make.

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      by dharmasyd on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 03:46:43 PM PDT

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      •  From the macro to the micro: (3+ / 0-)
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        I knew both sets of Grandparents (although my blood paternal Grandfather died when my Dad was 10, so I only knew the step-Great-Grandfather).

        My maternal Great-Grandmother lived in Tacoma, WA.  When she had her final illness in 1936, My mom,  my Grandmother, and I drove to Washington to be with her.  I put a photo of this meeting in an album, calling it, "First Encounter with Death."   This was the Irish Catholic side.

        The paternal side was Finn.  Therefore, I am half Finn, 1/4 Irish, and 1/4 Universal "we are all one" mongrel.  

        I don't know which part to blame for my boredom on the drive to Washington which resulted in my getting sticky, melted caramel candy stuck in my hair.  It had to be cut out, leaving quite a mess.  

        As an only child, I didn't get punished much for this kind of mistake, not that I can remember.

        May we grow, think, and learn to protect and nourish this precious, precious life.

        "The war against Bradley Manning is a war against us all." Chris Hedges

        by dharmasyd on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 04:11:47 PM PDT

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