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  •  When I was listening to the clips yesterday... (16+ / 0-)

    I was thinking the following about the fundie argument:

    What about those of us who are in opposite-sex relationships and in our childbearing years and choose not to have children or are not able to have them for whatever reason(s)?

    Taken to its extension, the fundie argument was that women should only be allowed to enter into an opposite-sex marriage if they are able or planning to have children.

    Government small enough to fit in your bedroom, I suppose.

    •  When this was still a state issue (4+ / 0-)
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      I heard many say it's the principle of it. Even if one of the couple is infertile, they are still a man and a woman which potentially, in some other dimension, I guess, have the possibility of procreation. It was so very twisted as to be Pythonesque. I didn't hear that in any of the clips, but didn't hear any very strong arguments either. The 55-y-o's in a marriage potentially being able to have children might be a rough equivalent, though.

      Get old and do lots of stuff in the process. Half of the fun is trying everything out. --Noddy

      by Debby on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 09:02:39 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly! (0+ / 0-)

      And men should discard their wives in favor of a younger one when they go through menopause, or have physical problems that make them not able to bear children.

      I do think that's how the fundies think. Why the women would go along with that is beyond me, unless they would rather not have sex with these men, so are happy to be "discarded" if they can survive financially.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 12:10:14 PM PDT

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    •  Taken to an even fuller extension, (0+ / 0-)

      would a marriage be considered null and void if the couple failed to produce a child within a certain amount of time, say 3 years?

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      by blue muon on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 06:05:10 PM PDT

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