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  •  I do believe that some of the people elected (5+ / 0-)

    under the Republican banner because they are people who appear to be eager to follow orders but, for some reason are incapable of actually doing so. Indeed, my hypothesis is that they suffer from certain perceptual deficits which prevent them from seeing the connection between things. I imagine it's something like seeing A and B as the components of an equation and not realizing that in the space between them there is supposed to be a sign and that this sign signals a relationship.
    I suppose one could boil this deficit down to "it's the math" or rather, the absence of mathimatical thinking. But, I also suspect that which comes first and which follows is important.
    Math makes no sense, if there's no awareness of connection and all of reality appears as isolated images, which may be mixed and matched at will, like the objects we might toss into the junk drawer. The junk drawer is an organizing principle, but it can't compare to a file drawer or a carpenter's tool belt.
    It's not likely that all members of Congress are organizationally deficient. It is likely that a goodly number do not know the difference between ordering one's tools and environment and issuing orders to lackeys. The proliferation of highly paid lackeys (political consultants, pollsters, chiefs of staff, experts and givers of advice) would seem to be evidence of people incapable of knowing much themselves.

    We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 07:29:45 AM PDT

    •  Two comments (8+ / 0-)

      First, there's been a 30 year effort to get the logic out of public school curricula (thus the emphasis on low level tests.) It's paying off.

      And second, the stooges that the faux "Tea party" put up as their candidates were not chosen for their ability to think their way out of a paper bag; rather, for their ability to follow orders.

      •  And one more comment: (6+ / 0-)

        Folks (and by this I mean GOP folks)- YOU had no problems with sequestration when it was proposed:

        Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

        Woodward summarizes the thoughts of the Obama team: "There would be no chance the Republicans would want to pull the trigger and allow the sequester to force massive cuts to Defense." Democrats, meanwhile, didn’t want to see their favorite domestic programs cut.

        As the negotiations proceeded, Republicans seemed to think the same thing.

        "Boehner told the House Republican leadership and other key members not to worry about the sequester … ‘Guys, this would be devastating to Defense,’ he said. ‘This would be devastating, from their perspective, on their domestic priorities. This is never going to happen,’" Woodward wrote.

        Nonetheless, sequestration is now looming.

        What is happening here is a page from the Karl Rove playbook. Last month in the WSJ, Rove was pushing the idea that Republicans pass a bill giving the President the authority to choose what cuts he would make within sequestration limits rather than forcing across the board cuts.
        My own recommendation is that House Republicans should pass a continuing resolution next week to fund the government for the balance of the fiscal year at the lower level dictated by the sequester—with language granting the executive branch the flexibility to move funds from less vital activities to more important ones.

        True, Mr. Obama may use that flexibility to cut spending that Republicans favor. Still, the GOP will be acting responsibly, and perhaps by doing so will put the president and Congressional Democrats a bit on the defensive.

        Above all, the GOP must also keep setting the record straight for the public.

        And that last line just above holds the reasoning behind Rove's proposal.  To paraphrase his remarks on Fox News soon thereafter:  
        Once the President starts making specific cuts using the power we give him, we get every GOP member of Congress to start criticizing him for the choices he made and insist that he doesn't know what he is doing and he has America's priorities wrong.
        Well, the GOP couldn't pass Rove's proposed legislation, but they are clearly following the game plan.  "Yes we want big cuts in government spending because "balanced budget, inflation, debt," but that doesn't mean you have to close the local airport.  What are you thinking you idiot Muslim Socialist ultra-liberal?

        Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

        by dweb8231 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 08:06:02 AM PDT

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        •  He said he got "98% of what he wanted." (3+ / 0-)
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          mchestnutjr, Laconic Lib, tofumagoo

          Scott Pelley of CBS interviewed him back when they negotiated the sequester....

          Pelley: You were unable to get your own caucus behind your bill a few days ago. Do you intend to remain Speaker of the House?

          Boehner: I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

          Video and story are here.

          Everybody got to elevate from the norm....

          by Icicle68 on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 08:41:53 AM PDT

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        •  What's really telling about that (0+ / 0-)

          is that he's saying they criticize him for his choices....without even knowing what those choices are.

          Further evidence, as if more were needed, that the Republicans simply reflexively oppose everything that Obama does or proposes simply because he is Obama, not because of the substance of what he does.

          Best thing Obama could do is come out in favor of Republicans breathing and warn of the dangers of asphyxiation.  By the next day 95% of Republicans will have held their breath into unconsciousness to spite him and the rest of us can actually get shit done.

    •  Oh the right-wingers see connnections... (2+ / 0-)
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      a2nite, Laconic Lib

      just very few that are actually based in reality.  ACORN was connected to whatever nefarious deeds they thought they were doing.  The ACA = death panels.  Obama was connected to Ayers.  Etc.

      The problem as far as I can tell is that way too many Republicans start with the conclusion (Obama is evil.  Regulation doesn't work.  Government needs to be smaller.  Homosexuality is a sin.  Global Warming isn't happening.  Whatever.) and try to cram what little of reality they can into it.  It leads to bizarreness when their initial feelings just aren't supported.

      Really, we should all be looking at how things are and then trying to draw our conclusions from that.

      •  That is exactly the problem with all ideologies (2+ / 0-)
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        David M Landreth, Laconic Lib

        They are closed systems so everything has to fit, even if you have to cut off a toe or two.
        That's why pure ideologies all fail, the world isn't tidy, particularly when humans are involved. Any philosophy, any plan of action that assumes black & white absolutes shatters on the rocks in a world of billions of colors.

        If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

        by CwV on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 08:22:53 AM PDT

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