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  •  *promiscuous* (4+ / 0-)
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    }sigh{

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    by Gentle Giant on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 12:53:19 PM PDT

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    •  But isn't he really saying (4+ / 0-)
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      that us heteros are so wildly promiscuous by nature, we need marriage to keep us from having babies willy-nilly.  Teh ghey are much more virtuous and don't need such protection.  

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      by Tracker on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 01:00:50 PM PDT

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      •  Yep. Straights are now wildly promiscuous. (0+ / 0-)

        That's why we need marriage.  See, if we don't have marriage, then straight people will engage in irresponsible procreative behavior.  (News flash:  Straight people have been doing that for millenia, despite the existence of marriage.)

        Let's assume this is true and that without marriage, straight folks will be producing children all over the place.  How on earth does allowing gay people to marry affect marriage's alleged restraining influence on straights?  Do straight people view gay weddings as excuses to have affairs and fornicate?  

        More seriously, when you distill this argument to its essence, it's basically saying that gay people have to be punished because straight people are incapable of controlling their own sexual urges.  

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        by FogCityJohn on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 02:47:49 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, I was just trying to parse that. (1+ / 0-)
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          This POV seems to be saying that marriage is needed to keep straight people from accidentally having kids outside of it.

          Ignoring the obvious issue that a) it doesn't stop that, and b) huh? It exists solely to keep things from happening without it?

          But ignore that weirdness and you get the idea that marriage is some sort of straightjacket that straight couples must be placed inside so that their accidental children can have a family. Okay, that's a rather insane view of marriage, but let's go with it.

          So, the logical conclusion is that...gay people, being very unlikely to have accidentally children, do not need to get married. Well, okay. I'll buy that also, pretending I am unaware of other reasons to get married.

          Now, why are people barring them from getting married? We know they don't need to be in the straightjacket that, apparently, marriage is (1)...but why can't they get in if they want to?

          1) Incidentally, people who keep yammering about 'defending marriage' might actually want to think a little more about their wording of what marriage is. Standing there pounding the table about how we must force straight couples into marriage because otherwise they will cause harm to their accidental children rather makes marriage sound like it's some sort of regulation along the lines of safety railing or something, and not something people would actually choose if given such a option freely.

          So considering we don't. despite what they think, actually require marriage, it might not be a clever idea for 'defending marriage' to stand around talking about how we force straight people to get married!

    •  I like "permiscuous" better. (3+ / 0-)
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      It ads back that "permissive" element that's so essential to bashing Modern Love.

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      by Bob Love on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 01:01:16 PM PDT

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    •  I thought you misspelled it on purpose:) (0+ / 0-)

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