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  •  Forget Tucson. How about Sanford, Florida? (1+ / 0-)
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    Where Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by an armed killer while peacefully walking home at night after a trip to the 7-11.  If he and all young black youths like him in Sanford, Florida, were armed, that might have gone down differently!

    I've suggested this before.  Considering the danger to young black youths from armed white killers in Florida who believe that they have the support of people like Rush Limbaugh, we need a program to arm them, more than we need a program in Tucson.

    Let's get it going.  In fact, maybe after we get it started, we can bus a bunch of newly armed Sanford citizenry to Tucson to walk the streets at night, making it safer there, as well.

    •  you are aware that George Zimmerman (0+ / 0-)

      Is Latino, right?


      "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
      "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

      by Leftie Gunner on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 03:08:41 PM PDT

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      •  He's also Jewish, but that's not relevant, either. (0+ / 0-)

        He self-identifies himself as white.  

        Article on Zimmerman's race or lack thereof:

      •  But he's assimilated. (0+ / 0-)

        George Zimmerman is not an Hispanic name and he certainly sees himself on the lighter end of the spectrum Vs: Martin or anyone who looks like him.

        If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

        by CwV on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 03:38:10 PM PDT

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      •  so was Tom Martinez, formerly of the aryan (0+ / 0-)

        militant group The Order.

        Ya know, from that GERMAN branch of the "Martinez" family.

        The nazis aren't terribly bright.

        And isn't George Rockwell a Jew?


        •  There were Mexican born Nazis (0+ / 0-)

          Ferdinand Maximilian Joseph

          Not many, but they were not unheard of.

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 07:02:39 PM PDT

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          •  Given the Austrian / German (2+ / 0-)

            emmigration to Mexico in the mid-1800s, this is not surprising.

            My father-in-law's mother's maiden name was Holmann. She crosed the border into San Diego in the 1920s, just ahead of the revolutionary hit squads... her family was wealthy Spanish / German... little native blood.

            My FiL looks more like a Spaniard than a "Mexican".

            To the original point, though... the Martin shooting simply doesn't fit neatly into the black / white racial narrative... although there has been plenty of shoving and pushing to try to make it fit that box.

            And, of course, Latino vs black racism isn't news to anybody who grew up poor in Southern California. The shooting of Trayvon Martin may well have been racially motivated, but George Zimmerman doesn't have to be white for that to be true. Racism in the real world looks more like a Jackson Pollack painting than a straight line.


            "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
            "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

            by Leftie Gunner on Wed Mar 27, 2013 at 09:19:37 PM PDT

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    •  I recall the Nazis did "armed patrols" there (1+ / 0-)
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      to, ya know, defend good white folk from the roving black hordes.

      •  What we need is a (0+ / 0-)

        well-regulated militia of young black youths openly carrying assault rifles for self-defense through the white neighborhoods that are most concerned about second amendment rights.  It could be like a second amendment parade!

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