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  •  That never bothered me. (0+ / 0-)

    Besides that we should all assume anyone could be tracking or have the power to track anything we put up.  If you want total privacy, don't put it up.

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    by dov12348 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:50:14 AM PDT

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    •  Actually, I thought that was snark lol (0+ / 0-)

      Because we have to "assume" we're being monitored doesn't make it right.

      "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

      by markthshark on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:57:57 AM PDT

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      •  OTOH, look at all the horrific stuff... (0+ / 0-)

        ...they could catch.  Saving lives, other future victims and such.  Lots of predators out there.

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        by dov12348 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 08:31:00 AM PDT

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        •  Then why doesn't the FBI use the equivalent of a.. (1+ / 0-)
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          FISA court? Congress would surely accommodate them by updating the statute.

          If it was an emergency (a ticking time-bomb scenario) they could go ahead with the monitoring, and then get the warrant retroactively. Of course, they'd have to explain the emergency to the judge after the fact.

          What they want to do is anathema to the Constitution.

          It'd be like them casting an ocean-size net in the water just to see what they could catch.

          "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

          by markthshark on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:12:21 AM PDT

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          •  How would that be unconstitutional? (0+ / 0-)

            When you go online you should know you're already giving up your privacy. Which you are.  You should assume any hacker in the world could get to your stuff. Which many could, or already have.  If you can't deal with that, don't put your stuff online.

            I would love a world-wide fishing net.  Imagine how many predators they could catch.

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            by dov12348 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:13:12 AM PDT

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            •  It is unconstitutional quite simply (1+ / 0-)
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              because it constitutes a search by the government without a warrant.

              That is behavior that is explicitly prohibited by the Fourth Amendment:

              The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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