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    does not lead to procreation.  It CAN lead to procreation, but it doesn't always.  And procreation can and does take place OUTSIDE of heterosexual marriage. That statement is both logically and historically false.

    What heterosexual marriage leads to is a clearer delineation of rights involving property and custody of any procreative issue that may come from said marriage.  But it doesn't help much with the delineation of rights involving property and custody of any procreative issue that may come from outside of any marriage.  

    So it is helpful is some instances of procreative activity, but not all of them.  

    Millenia of human existence stand in contradiction to the idea that marriage of any kind leads to procreation.  A majority of societies simply found it more convenient to organize the legal activities that derive from procreation around a structure they called marriage, and then develop rules about that structure that evolved and changed as political interests evolved and changed.  Procreation is not in any way dependent upon marriage of any kind.  

    There is some evidence that the rearing of said issue of those acts of procreation is better accomplished via marriage, but that is a different argument altogether and one that isn't necessarily dependent upon heterosexual marriage, per se, since what most of that evidence reveals is that children do better when raised in a two parent family, (mostly because of the doubling of resources in terms of emotional energy, adult decision-making and guidance, economic resources, time and stability...though not all two parent families present this), but there's not really a whole lot of evidence about the gendered make-up of those two parent families.  The reason for this has to do with the context within which most of these studies were conducted: they derived from a political moment when the primary concern for policy makers was households with children headed by poor, single mothers, so the push was to declare "marriage" (at the time only conceived of as a heterosexual marriage headed by an employed male) more advantageous to children.  This was done mostly as a way to argue for the reduction of payments to families with dependent children -- to demonize single mothers and to get the public out of the business of supporting children and put the burden back where libertarians and conservatives believe it should be: not in the public.   (This situation is now changing, but the annals of the literature about two parent families is far older than the policy issue of marriage equality).

    So there's a serious conflation of variables in all these arguments that rely on sloppy thinking, purposeful collapsing, bigoted prejudices, political ideologies and blindered universalisms to put two things together in a logic statement that while correlated are not in anyway causally related.  

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:43:09 AM PDT

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