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  •  One more complaint about Dean (none)
    I really wish Dean hadn't said that thing about Democrats taking the black vote for granted; I believe that that is simply not true, and that Democrats who say that are repeating right-wing talking points, something that Dean usually does an admirable job avoiding.  Rather than repeating all my arguments against the taking-black-voters-for-granted idea, I'll just post a link to my previous diary about it.
    •  Sadly it is true (4.00)
      I really wish Dean hadn't said that thing about Democrats taking the black vote for granted; I believe that that is simply not true, and that Democrats who say that are repeating right-wing talking points
    •  Just ask some Black People (none)
      that should clear it up for you.  Dean was right.
      •  I know lots of black people (none)
        And I live in a majority-black county where Democrats get 80% of the vote in just about every election, and I've never heard anyone I know say this.  I've only heard it from commentators, and interestingly, I think I've heard it more from white commentators than black ones.  
        •  uh... (none)
          come back to reality
          •  Very well grounded in reality, thanks (none)
            And I note with interest this poll, which says that 60% of the black voters polled did NOT believe that the Democratic party takes their votes for granted.  It disappoints me that one-third of the respondents DID think so, so I think that the Democratic party still has some reaching out to do, but clearly, this is not a majority opinion in the African-American community.  

            Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo, and Joe Conason in his book Big Lies, said it best.  Black voters are not stupid; they know what they are doing when they are voting, and to argue that they are so easily fooled that they would continue to vote for a party that "takes them for granted" is, ultimately, repeating a GOP talking point.  The Repubs cannot simultaneously be the party of anti-black white resentment AND be a party that gets lots of black support.  Liberals shouldn't help them try.  

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