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  •  Really? do we live in a Mad Max world? (23+ / 0-)

    Is mass home invasion really a big issue?

    Are we Johanasberg or Capetown now?

    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

      Unknown, but it does happen.  Nothing Mad Max about it.

      When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

      by Patrick Costighan on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 05:53:06 AM PDT

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      •  Just when you started to make sense on background (6+ / 0-)

        Checks you go all gun nut again! On the one hand, I keep hearing that 30 round mags do not increase the damage a committed shooter can do, but you are arguing they are more effective against multiple targets which, by the way, is exactly what Adam Lanza thought when he left his 10 round magazines home and took his 30 rounders to Sandy Hook. BTW, you are right that is is POSSIBLE that you could face multiple intruders and could fend them off with your AR, but statistically it is far more likely that guns in the home will be used against you, a loved one, or some one else's family. Nancy Lanza had guns for home protection and they were used to kill her, and members of 26 other families, and wound members of to other families. So the guns purchased to defend one family were used against 29 families. Crazy.

        •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

          I did not argue that thirty round mags are more effective against multiple targets.  I argued thirty round mags are preferable for a very specific scenario: when you face multiple threats and you do not have access to additional ammunition.  In that case, the only thing that matters is if you have ammunition to last, in which case magazine capacity is decisive. A mass murderer does not face that problem.  He has the time to prepare everything he needs to carry out his crime.

          No preparation is perfect.  If my luck fails, I could be dead the moment someone comes through the door no matter what precautions I've taken.  Also, the argument that guns in the home are statistically more likely to be used against a member of that household than to defend that household stems from a study that didn't even determine whether the murder weapon belong to the homeowner.

          When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

          by Patrick Costighan on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:34:49 AM PDT

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          •  Too many examples (1+ / 0-)
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            I know from my own life experience, and from reading the newspaper and watching the news that guns in the home are more likely to be used for harm rather than defense. Domestic violence, suicide, or Adam Lanza,  or the southwest shooter who recently wiped out his mom, dad, and siblings. The incidents are legion. The number dwarfs the successful home defense scenarios. You have a constitutional right o own a gun for home defense, under Heller, but the odds are it won't make you safer. And please, make sure your weapons are secured so they won't fall into the hands of a child, someone who is depressed, or able to be stolen.

          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

            ZOMBIES!!

            This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

            by Beetwasher on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 10:10:19 AM PDT

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      •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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        ZOMBIES

        This post is dedicated to myself, without whom, I'd be somebody else. Though I'd still be an asshole. My Music: [http://www.myspace.com/beetwasher]

        by Beetwasher on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 10:07:40 AM PDT

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