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  •  China, North Korea (1+ / 0-)
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    fairly recent history - Cambodia (Khmer Rouge)  

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    by Denise Oliver Velez on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 11:20:50 AM PDT

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    •  How was their religious status expressed? (0+ / 0-)

      Written into government documents? Surveys of population religious adherences?  Personal statements of leaders?

      Dictators who act as or declare themselves god-like are not atheists.  Atheists do not believe in any gods, especially self made human ones. And if you look behind the curtains of these countries you list, there is always some collusion between the "godless" leaders and religious institutions.

      I still say that religious thinking and institutions and beliefs and actions have created more misery in the world than good.  When an example comes up, I point it out.  You really don't want to start comparing the death and destruction numbers between communist regimes and "holy" ones. You may not like the results.

      •  You are derailing the conversation from (2+ / 0-)
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        the topic of this diary.

        I, for one, would appreciate it if you'd stop.

        I, too, hold organized religion accountable for many of the ills of this world, but that's not the subject of this diary, nor do I think you are contributing to a relevant discussion of the topic.  

        I can appreciate a lot of what you're saying, but, frankly, at this point, you're threadjacking.

        "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

        by Yasuragi on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 12:16:20 PM PDT

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        •  And Denise is not? (0+ / 0-)

          Please read my first comment.  It has everything to do with the topic of what happened to the arboriginal children, and any accounting of this generations long event will tell you of the key role of religion and religious institutions played.   Just look it up.

          Whatever conversation played out past that had to do with people's responses to those facts... the first one telling me that my factual observations were not "appropriate".   If anyone "derailed" the conversation, it was those who didn't want to admit to these facts or had a bee in their bonnet about non-religious nations being brutal, which is certainly not topic related.

          The subject of this diary is the apology made by a government for abuses of native children and their families. A large part of the abuse stemmed from robbing these people of their culture and RELIGION and replacing it with another culture and RELIGION. Plus the angst of stealing children to achieve those ends.

          I stand by my original observation as being totally topic appropriate, and my responses to others as being simply responses to whatever THEY brought up.

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