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  •  Do you ask them when they learned Hebrew (6+ / 0-)

    and Greek?  If it is in English, it has been interpreted.

    “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

    by ahumbleopinion on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 07:08:09 PM PDT

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    •  not according to the Official Party Line: (0+ / 0-)

      even TRANSLATIONS - and the translation process itself - are rendered INERRANT, which means they CANNOT BE wrong.

      By the same sort of multiple dishonesties that allow Christianists to believe that  - oh, sod it.  It dishonors the thought process and the thinking brain itself to joust with these people as if their most transparent bullshit was somehow reasonable, laudable instead of the toxic corrosion it's proven itself to be WITHOUT FAIL FOR 2000 YEARS.

      At this point, Christian theology is the VERY DEFINITION of sophistry - of evasive bullshit for its own sake.  Talking with them about it is the stupidest and least-productive thing we could possible do...except maybe, talking amongt ourselves over which parts of the manufactured Christian superstructure might 'feel differently'....

      I am a leaf on the wind - i hover, twirl, float,
      Weightless, frictionless, I fly

      by chmood on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 05:08:48 AM PDT

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      •  I am continually amazed (1+ / 0-)
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        at how defiantly non-Christian commentators make such statements with assurance.  What in the world does the "Official Party Line" mean for Christianity?

        I've never heard of it, although I'm married to an Episcopal rector who also has a PhD in religious and medical ethics.  She has studied Greek and Hebrew (as well as Spanish, Russian, and Chinese) and Jewish religious ethics (and with it the Talmudic tradition).  Her dissertation focused on narrative ethics, so she's also highly attuned to text, author, audience, and the dynamics of power among them.  So, no, she doesn't believe any claptrap about inerrant translations.  

        If I as a Christian made a claim about what all scientists believe -- or all biologists, or all archaeologists, or all of any subspecialty no matter how small, I suspect you'd laugh me off the thread for daring to generalize so superficially about a rich, complex, contradictory set of individuals.

        Hell, take a look just at the two most recent popes, then tell me how all Christians interpret their faith the same way!

        A 47% return on investment--that's pretty doggoned good!

        by deminva on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 06:23:47 AM PDT

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