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  •  Lived in Laguna since 1948 (3+ / 0-)
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    Capt Crunch, Whatithink, ArkDem14

    There used to be almost no Democrats -- the town was made up of California rednecks and retirees.  Over the years the balance has slowly shifted and now Democrats hold a slight plurality.  A significant portion of voters are independent.  We are a little blue island in a great red sea, widely considered by the rest of the county to be overrun with lunatics.  Hah!

    I know what the map says, but nobody calls it Laguna Beach.  Likewise Sunset, Newport, Huntington, Redondo, etc.  So if you come down and want to sound home grown. . .

    Canem Praeteri, Cave Modo Hominem (Never mind the dog, just watch out for the human)

    by T C Gibian on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 08:48:03 AM PDT

    •  You're right about the city names (1+ / 0-)
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      I currently live in Huntington. Nobody calls it Huntington Beach.

      I differ with you a little on Laguna though. There has always been an artist community there - as well as the thriving gay community. For a brief time in the 60's Timothy Leary was ensconced there with the Brotherhood of Love.

      But I really think Orange County can swing Democrats if only the Democrats can get off their butts and engage the youth vote as well as the Latino vote. The youth vote has been ignored and untapped for decades.

      Does anybody realize that seminal proto punk bands rose out of Fullerton and Anaheim in the late 70's and early 80's? TSOL, Social Distortion, Agent Orange, Adolescents...

      •  Laguna had a seminal Democratic community (1+ / 0-)
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        but it had to grow from a paltry start.  The artists were always few and often only involved in politics on a philosophical level.  The 60's hippies didn't vote worth a darn, and the gays, once they were no longer persecuted, became successful and often republican.  The Log Cabin republicans are well established here.

        The gradual transformation I cited is based on observations of voter rolls and election results.  The trend is clear.  In 1960, we LBHS students had a straw poll on the presidency, and Nixon won 2/3 of the vote.  More recently, Obama won in the general election both times in a walk.

        The interesting thing about the statistics in the main article is that they point to a similar trend in the main body of Orange county.  Long ago, we had significant Democratic representation until the redistricting in 1980 when Orange County was thrown to the republicans to secure a number of safe Democratic districts in L.A.  Slowly since then the demographic changes have given Democrats a stronger voice in Orange county, and I anticipate soon several cities here will be competitive for the blue side.

        Canem Praeteri, Cave Modo Hominem (Never mind the dog, just watch out for the human)

        by T C Gibian on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:23:30 AM PDT

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        •  Do you mean congressional districts? (0+ / 0-)

          Is this what gave us Bob Dornan?

          "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

          by ArkDem14 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:09:04 PM PDT

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          •  Sorry. (0+ / 0-)

            My fault. I volunteered for his campaign years ago, when I was young and stupid. I also considered asking Bill "AIDS is spread by spores" Dannemeyer to support my application to the USNA. I never followed through on that bit.

        •  We are represented by Issa (0+ / 0-)

          Talk about Gerrymandering and throwing South County Dems to the wolves....

        •  If you look at Laguna (1+ / 0-)
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          you'll see the difference between it and the rest of Orange County.

          The land use laws, the look and feel of the community, the tolerance of the gay community - these are all Democratic positions that are manifestly obvious in the community once you enter it.

          My view of Laguna has been that it has been kind of a bipolar city. Typical OC Republicans living in a city that has adopted Democratic positions on land use and tolerance of alternative lifestyles not found in other Orange County cities. And the adoption of those Democratic positions was through a political process.

      •  Hunnington (2+ / 0-)
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        Capt Crunch, bumiputera

        That is all. :)

        I realized that about punk; there was a great scene back in the day, but I was too scared to go to most of those shows (mosh pits freaked me out). Don't forget a lot of the second- and third-wave ska-punk came out of that area, too: No Doubt (before they became more pop), Save Ferris, Reel Big Fish, Suburban Legends, the Skeletones.

    •  Isn't Laguna trending Democratic? (0+ / 0-)

      Laguna Beach had an openly by Mayor a long time ago when it was unusual.....

      South County still has a Brady Bunch, Beach Boys feel....Still predominantly white and Republican....

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