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    MichaelNY

    Gays are actually represented on par now with our proportion of the population in the House and are close to being so in the Senate (we just need one more open LGBT person in the Senate to be at what is the closest thing to a consensus on our share of the population that exists in the scientific community).

    23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

    by wwmiv on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:05:26 PM PDT

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    •  That's only the self-identified share, though (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      There's a substantial portion of the gay community that is closeted.

      •  *cough* Larry Craig *cough* (2+ / 0-)
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        gabjoh, MichaelNY

        But that doesn't really count as they have spent much of their lives denying what they are by legislating against gay people when their only quarrel is with their self-destructive self-denial.  Take Ken Mehlman, who when he was closeted, pushed a nationwide initiative to ban same-sex unions.

        "...and as I learned higher joys, so I learned neither to harm, nor to wish harm upon others." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

        by KingofSpades on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 04:50:47 PM PDT

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        MichaelNY

        This isn't the case. The total proportion that has been found in study after study is between 2 and 4 percent, including both closeted and non-closeted individuals, with some studies showing as many as 6 percent at max for the entire LGBT community.

        23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

        by wwmiv on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 05:19:37 PM PDT

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        •  I apologize if this is a stupid question, (1+ / 0-)
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          but how can they include closeted individuals in those studies? It seems to me that they would all be about self-identification, and I would think if you were truly in the closet, you wouldn't be particularly willing to identify yourself as LGBT.

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            It's done through statistical guesswork. We know, for instance, from some older studies (I.E. ten or so years ago) approximately what percentage of homosexuals are not out and we also from self-identification studies what proportion LGBTQs are in the population - put the two together and you can say pretty accurately what percentage they are overall.

            Also, the higher end of all studies is about 6% total. If you assume that all of that 6% are out, even if you also assume that approximately 1/4 (a very large proportion) of gays are not out at any given time, that's saying that in total they could possibly be 7% of the population. Not that much difference. I.E. its within the overall study MoE anyway.

            23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

            by wwmiv on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 06:23:15 PM PDT

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