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  •  where in the dispensation of grace does God tell (0+ / 0-)

    anyone to kill anyone

    I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

    by meknow on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:28:06 PM PDT

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    •  Uh, dude.... (7+ / 0-)

      When people are being stoned in the Bible, it doesn't mean that they're having pot thrown at them so they can get high....

      Good grief.

      This is just getting weirder by the minute.

      Stoning in the Bible means having rocks thrown at you until you're dead. It is KILLING.

      "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

      by Diogenes2008 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:30:19 PM PDT

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    •  So in gods book where it says to kill (4+ / 0-)
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      those are not his words / thoughts ?
      Someone put those words in his mouth ?

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      by indycam on Fri Mar 29, 2013 at 09:37:47 PM PDT

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      •  The God in the Bible (5+ / 0-)

        sent his angel of death to kill every first born baby of the Egyptians, even the children of slaves, all innocents who had nothing to do with keeping the Israelites captive.

        If that isn't terrorism, I don't know what is.

        •  I have always said that history is in the eyes of (0+ / 0-)

          eyes of the beholder...  the raid on bin ladens crib is seen as such by some people... mainly the ignorant and/or uninformed...  the israelis who were set free didn't see it as terrorism but and act of mercy...

          I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

          by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 08:33:58 AM PDT

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          •  "eyes of eyes of the beholder..." ? (1+ / 0-)
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            Now then , gay = sin is in the eyes of the beholder .
            Change the beholder .
            Give up on the whole bullshit gay = sin .

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            by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 08:52:35 AM PDT

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            •  if you don't believe in sin why is it a problem (0+ / 0-)

              indycam...  do what you do and leave folk alone...

              some of you are asking people who are as passionate as you are to support you against their belief system.  you are cracking jokes about it like they are calling you "fags", "queers" and other shyt.  that is not right and damn right offensive.  I would not stand for it.  but at the same time "bible thumper", "jesus freak" and all the other shyt you guys come off with insence them just as passionately and both of your groups end up standing in front of each other acting like asses...

              I have just given my willingness to seek compromise and  have not recieved one possitive post of about 300.  no problem...  i have not used any of those words above because I don't in the real world and would not.  I understand what words can do...

              but you stand there and tell me that because the law on the books say that driving over 55 is breaking the law and because you want to do 57 I have to go along with you because you don't believe in the law book.  shyt

              wake up dude...  do 57 if you want to, that is between you and the law.  you are "bent"

              I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

              by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:00:06 AM PDT

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              •  Huh (3+ / 0-)
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                How about you take your own fucking advice??

                do what you do and leave folk alone...
                Quit trying to change people. Quit trying to shove your beliefs onto others.

                Here's one for you: Homosexuality is not a sin. It is a natural, normal thing that happens and has happened for all of time. Deal with it.

                And it's about time people stopped trying to dehumanize others.

                As my mother said to me on the phone this morning "Can't we just let people be PEOPLE??"

                Amen to that.

                "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

                by Diogenes2008 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:04:21 AM PDT

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                •  go read my diary... (0+ / 0-)

                  i told you at the beginning i can't change or stop you from doing what you want to do.  God does not even have you stoned anymore... why you lie on me and diss me like that smile... listen to your self... everything you are accusing me of you are practicing on me.   is calling some one hateful dehumanizing?  

                  I have not asked you or anyone to change once in 300 posts...  your passions blind you...

                  the truth is coming...  relax i am

                  I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                  by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:36:21 AM PDT

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              •  You said (2+ / 0-)
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                Elsewhere in the comments that people had treated you with bigotry. That they called you the "n" word.

                And yet, here you are, perpetuating that same kind of bigotry against another group of people.

                Have you learned nothing? Do you really want to be the kind of person who could treat others the way you were treated years ago?

                Or is this some twisted perverse application of the Golden Rule? Mistreat others as you have been mistreated?

                Wake up. Grow up. Open your eyes and your heart, and be a better person.

                Are you capable of that?

                "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

                by Diogenes2008 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:10:57 AM PDT

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                •  what have i done to treat you in any way like that (0+ / 0-)

                  i simply told you that i understood that you should have fair taxes and benefits at work.  

                  me telling you that i accepted homosexuality is like me asking you to reject it.  it is a personal decision.  I can't make you do anything.

                  you are talking shyt with someone who wants to have dialogue with you and not stand across and name call with you

                  I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                  by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:44:33 AM PDT

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                  •  I'm not gay (1+ / 0-)
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                    But I don't have to be gay to care about those who are, and to want them to have the same rights as everyone else.

                    I personally don't care whether you "accept" homosexuality or not. Your refusal to accept it won't make it go away, and nothing you can do will change that.

                    You can refuse to accept gravity, if you choose, but it will still be here, and you can't change it.

                    Walk away. Don't come in here with your patronizing bullshit, and act like you're better than all those "sinful" gay people. You're not.

                    You're human. I'm human. We're all human.

                    Being gay is not a sin. You can believe that all you want, but it doesn't make it true.

                    And you can sit and stare at the moon and call it green cheese, but that won't change anything either.

                    Done with you. You're a pathetic waste of time.

                    "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

                    by Diogenes2008 on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:56:31 AM PDT

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                    •  you are still blinded by your passions dio (0+ / 0-)

                      you disagree with me and want to run me off.  that is what the right is saying they would do to gays,  i have not implied such a thing.  and if i did beleive that way why under the cloak of cyber space wouldn't I.  it is you who are trying to deny a person of their rights under passion that blinds you.

                      i live on the globe and have certain human rights thank you.  and everyday we have to bump elbows every day adn I have no problem with gays and have not said anything about denying them anything.  that is your confusion.  i have not 'accousted' you [SOUNDS good anyway] or anyone else.  i am grammatically challenged and instead of being compassionate you crack on me and someone shot a racist crack (ham) and you call me the bigot...  name calling and no substance

                      good bye

                      I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                      by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:32:13 PM PDT

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              •  Eh ? (1+ / 0-)
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                you are cracking jokes about it like they are calling you "fags", "queers" and other shyt.
                 Excuse me ?
                Nobody calls me
                "fags", "queers" and other shyt.
                Your saying they do , shows that you have no clue .

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                by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:18:15 AM PDT

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                •  just saying that people do out of ignorance (0+ / 0-)

                  it happens...i don't use those terms

                  I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                  by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:46:25 AM PDT

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                  •  So when you said this (0+ / 0-)
                    like they are calling you
                    and I tell you they don't , you restate
                    that people do
                    Dude , how would you know what people say about me ?
                    You live over a thousand miles away .

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                    by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:16:28 PM PDT

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                    •  that was a general comment sir (0+ / 0-)

                      I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                      by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:32:57 PM PDT

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                      •  A "general comment" ? (1+ / 0-)
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                        terrybuck

                        You misspelled genital .

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                        by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:37:35 PM PDT

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                        •  thanks i don't think misspelling is a sin (0+ / 0-)

                          I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                          by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:47:06 PM PDT

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                          •  I went right over your head . (0+ / 0-)

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                            by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 01:43:37 PM PDT

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                          •  that is because you are over my head... (0+ / 0-)

                            I once spent a few weeks in a writers colony in the 70s.  half of the people were gay.  I spoke with a guy who was said to be a genius just before I left.  I had been avoiding him thinking that I was not worthy or qualified to even waste his time.

                            He finally cornered me off and as we talked he eventually told me that his IQ did not change him from being a fellow human being.  He said that he felt that it only put the onus on him to make himself understood by all people especially those who were not as literate.  he was tolerant and patient.  he eventually added to people if they were open.  he did not crash anyone for splitting verbs or messing up pronouns.  

                            I personally don't care what you think of my flaw at writing, spelling and speaking... but i know that you are smart enough to know... that is all that counts...

                            when i was in the world we would have called you a jic who commits cre cre...  but i don't do that no more

                            I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                            by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 02:36:19 PM PDT

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                          •  Thanks for not calling anyone... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...a "jic who commits cre cre."

                          •  i said that is what the old meknow would have said (0+ / 0-)

                            and by the way the tag meknow is jamaican slang for "I know what you are saying".  like me know baba... I just like what balzac said but I like Ghandi's saying about christians better...

                            my personal motto..."it is what it is"

                            um jess sayin'

                            git on wit it din
                             

                            I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                            by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 04:00:43 PM PDT

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                          •  The words of Honree Balsac have never been... (1+ / 0-)
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                            ...so resonant, so true, and so necessary. We could use some of his wisdom in today's troubled times.

                          •  You still don't get it . (0+ / 0-)

                            Try reading it again .

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                            by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 08:06:02 PM PDT

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              •  You first (0+ / 0-)
                leave folk alone...
                vs
                homosexuality is a sin
                (1) we can not make you not practice homosexuality (2) that we believe that it is a sin (3) you can not change ourminds there...
                There are consequences for sin make no mistake about that.

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                by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:23:35 AM PDT

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                •  do you know what name calling is? (0+ / 0-)

                  those are my beliefs ...  you can't deny me my right of speech or do you think you can

                  I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                  by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:48:23 AM PDT

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                  •  Really ? (0+ / 0-)
                    do you know what name calling is?
                    What an interesting question , I'll play along , no I have no idea what name calling is , please tell me so that I might be enlightened .
                    those are my beliefs ...
                    Thank you for making that clear , I thought they were your pants , my bad .
                    you can't deny me my right of speech or do you think you can
                    Eh ? Did I tell you to shut the fuck up ? Or have I been asking you questions ? If I wanted you to go away and be banned from this site , I'd be hide rating your bull shit filled comments as hate filled , homophobic dung . But I have not given you even one HR .

                    I think you are lost .

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                    by indycam on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 11:57:55 AM PDT

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                    •  calm down cuz...you passion has you blind (0+ / 0-)

                      general again, i don't know you only what you say on here...  i have been asked to leave...  i am sure that if you are out that in the right or wrong place you have or will be called names

                      I may not be deep, but I am very wide... Honree Balzac

                      by meknow on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 12:35:39 PM PDT

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