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  •  Kind isn't all that liberal (1+ / 0-)
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    You have to remember that the typical Democratic primary voter in Wisconsin is to the ideological left of Obama, and Kind is to the ideological right of Obama.

    Here's what a typical Wisconsin Democrat once said about Obama after a 2012 speech on the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus:

    Dear Barack Obama:

    The "I'll be with you no matter what" line falls flat in Wisconsin. Plus, we really don't need to hear about how you reached out to McCain voters.

    Love, Rebecca

    P.S. Stop trashing people for being cynical and disaffected when these attitudes are directly related to your administration’s pursuit of policies that keep your Wall St., defense contractor and education privatizing backers happy, while many of those who supported you four years ago suffer the ill effects of those interests being catered to. It is actually the height of cynicism to suggest that a vote for or against you is a vote for or against "change." Open your eyes. Change comes in a wide variety of packages and the people of Wisconsin are waking up to that fact.

    Quite frankly, I don't think even State Assemblywoman Chris Taylor would be liberal enough to suit Progressive magazine writer Rebecca Kemble (she is notorious for criticizing Democratic/liberal politicians from the left and not holding anything back), but Kemble (who probably has no intention of running for public office, thankfully) represents the kind of voters that compromise much of the statewide Democratic primary electorate in Wisconsin. Just a few years ago, the Democratic primary electorate in Wisconsin was more than welcome to politicians like Jim Doyle, Tom Barrett, and Ron Kind, but the Wisconsin Uprising changed all of that. Nowadays, politicians like Tammy Baldwin and Chris Taylor seem to be who Wisconsin Democrats tend to prefer.

    Polls don't vote, statistics don't vote, history doesn't vote, yard signs don't vote...PEOPLE VOTE!!!

    by DownstateDemocrat on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:54:17 PM PDT

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    •  I don't feel like that really addresses (0+ / 0-)

      the issues I raised.  Also, what evidence do you have to assume that regular primary voters in Wisconsin are like this Kemble person?

      My original points:
      1.  I can't imagine anyone of stature would challenge Kind in a primary.  This is somewhat because they don't seem interested in running in the first place.  At this point it looks like if Kind doesn't run, no prominent Wisconsin Dem will.

      2.  If someone of lesser stature ran against him in the primary, there's little indication that they could beat him, if they even ran.  I mean, Democratic primary voters are not Republican primary voters.  They don't necessarily vote for the most ideologically compatible candidate.  And might the be scared out of the race because Kind would almost certainly bring far greater resources than any competition?

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 04:20:15 PM PDT

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      •  What do you think about the stature of P Barca? (0+ / 0-)

        He is a former US House representative. He would not be an usual state legislator.

        •  He was briefly a Congressman during the early 90's (0+ / 0-)

          Barca served 3/4 of a term in the congressional district now held by Republican Paul Ryan. Barca won a special election in the spring of 1993 and then lost the fall 1994 general election, in both cases, Mark Neumann was his Republican challenger, additionally, both congressional races Barca was in were decided by less than 2,000 votes.

          There may be some people outside of Barca's assembly district, in places like Racine, Burlington, Janesville, etc. who may remember Barca being their Congessman for a year and a half, but there probably aren't as many as you think.

          Polls don't vote, statistics don't vote, history doesn't vote, yard signs don't vote...PEOPLE VOTE!!!

          by DownstateDemocrat on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:50:05 PM PDT

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