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  •  No one cares (0+ / 0-)

    You can 'take control of labor' all you want.

    They will invent a machine to replace laborers and then do so.

    Automation is fine. Guess who created these machines? And guess who should enjoy the leisure time these machines create
    So... supermarket checkout cashiers design and manufacture self checkout machines? Who knew?

    The people automated out of a job are never the machine designers, who pretty much just go on to automate something else afterwards.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 10:30:28 PM PDT

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    •  You may not realize this... (2+ / 0-)
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      but engineers are part of the working class.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 10:38:07 PM PDT

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    •  And those designs (1+ / 0-)
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      are made using the efforts of countless other developments, made by countless other individuals through history. Why should a step forward belong to a few private individuals?

      There is no way to measure the contributions of society to make possible that one small step forward in technology. No one creates anything in a vacuum, all due to one's own efforts.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 10:41:22 PM PDT

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        are made using the efforts of countless other developments, made by countless other individuals through history.
        All of whom were compensated for their individual contributions when they made them.
        Why should a step forward belong to a few private individuals?
        Because they took the step, and other people didn't.

        Besides, everyone benefits from better technology in the form of lower prices and improvements.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 12:14:48 PM PDT

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        •  Exhibit F: the 'deification of money' fallacy (0+ / 0-)
          are made using the efforts of countless other developments, made by countless other individuals through history
          All of whom were compensated for their individual contributions when they made them.
          I'm guessing you like 'work for hire' laws, where anything you do at all belongs to your employer because you're employed by them.  After all, they're being compensated by their regular paychecks - no need to even discuss how much more you'll make off of them by appropriating their so-called private efforts, right?  I mean, they got paid, so we're all square!

          Right?

          I am a leaf on the wind - i hover, twirl, float,
          Weightless, frictionless, I fly

          by chmood on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 10:53:54 AM PDT

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    •  The point is whether or you are (1+ / 0-)
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      involved in making something positive or negative out of that situation.

      Capitalism is nihilistic.

      If we want to make sure we don't have a world of suffering and misery, at least some of us have to come up with a way to avoid that.

      Because I know, from my experience as both a corporate executive and as a small business owner, it's all too easy to ignore the people involved and just focus on the numbers, which is exactly what most people in those positions wind up doing.

      So which side are on you on?

      What's the point of letting neoliberals into the tent when neoliberalism is burning down the campground?

      by Words In Action on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:10:13 AM PDT

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