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  •  it wasn't about the SBV (4.00)
    It was about the grades. Kerry's grades at Yale were pretty much as bad as W.'s. That would've been the story. It didn't matter that the report vindicated him.  It's not like anyone really believed the swifties.  It was a smear campaign.

    "The truth is never pure and rarely simple"--Oscar Wilde

    by VirginiaBelle on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 07:53:21 AM PDT

    •  We can see that (4.00)
      in the fact that AOL is right now running a prominent "news" story asking "Who's smarter, Bush or Kerry?"

      You're exactly right.

      •  Be that as it may.... (none)
        If that was the worry, then they should have been prepared to deal with that once it was released. A case could be made that Kerry has learned a lot since those days (bring in BCCI...) and that Bush has not (AWOL in Vietnam, AWOL on 9/11 reading my pet goat).  Most Americans wouldn't have cared about equivalent grades. The only way it would have mattered in the least would have been if Bush had better grades than Kerry.

        And, as is true in general with Vietnam service, what happened and what grades you got in the '70s is not nearly important as what is happening NOW.

    •  See my post above (none)
      CNN is headlining the story with "Kerry, Bush had similar grades"

      First paragraph of the AP story...

      BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Sen. John F. Kerry's grade average at Yale University was virtually identical to President Bush's record there, despite repeated portrayals of Kerry as the more intellectual candidate during the 2004 presidential campaign.
      •  Oh fer christ's sake! (none)
        Look at the news aggregator headlines for john kerry today.

        It's all about the grades folks, fuck the media!

        •  Well... (none)
 appears that the only new info in the records was the grades, so...

          That doesn't mean it wasn't amazingly stupid not to sign the 180.  By not signing it, it looked like Kerry was hiding something.  Apparently, what he was hiding was the poor grades-but the Swifties were able to make it look like there was something truely evil that Kerry was covering up.

          The rules about politics is you admit all the small to medium sized stuff early on, so everybody knows about it coming in.  If you did a triple homicide in college; well, maybe you should cover that up.  Everything else, make it public, and let the chips fall where they may.  Like Nixon found out, it's not the initial crime that gets you-it's the cover up.  Lousy grades is not worth covering up, even if it shoots down the "Dubya is an idiot" frame.

          •  Intelligence (none)
            was always a false issue, and has been really distorted from the beginning with Bush. Bush and Gore had virtually the same very respectable SAT's (~1200) but it's obvious that Gore is practically "smarter" in that he knows far more about the real world than Bush, as does Kerry. But that's because Gore and Kerry are reasonably decent human beings who think they have some kind of imperative to know what they're talking about, and Bush doesn't. A lot of differing intelligence in practice is probably more due to character than to how heavy your little gray cells are, though Bush probably boozed and coked a lot of his basic equipment away.

            "There are only murderers in this room" - John Rooney in The Road to Perdition

            by jlb on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 10:47:55 AM PDT

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