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  •  Any idea how recent the neighborhood is? (14+ / 0-)

    The houses are obviously pretty new, more telling is the immature landscaping - in Arkansas' 7 & 8 growing zones. I wonder how many of them were built after the pipeline had been built, whether the location had to be disclosed anywhere in the sale process .

    I can't see owners in that subdivision being ok with a pipeline construction while they lived in those houses. Had there been protesting, I suspect the local news would have included it in a side report.

    Maybe they knew and blew it off.

    "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

    by Ginny in CO on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 03:20:08 PM PDT

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    •  Years ago, when I bought some land (13+ / 0-)

      I discovered a pipeline easement through the property on the title search. It was for a future pipeline. I wasn't too worried because the land was on a stream and partial wetland and figured  it would never happen, which it didn't. Yet.

      Check you deeds and titles, these things should be on them.

      We all stand submissively before the global ATM machine network like trained chickens pecking the correct colored buttons to release our grains of corn. Joe Bageant

      by Zwoof on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 03:24:15 PM PDT

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      •  Good to know. I'm thinking this is not (9+ / 0-)

        actually on their property, but close enough to have a reasonable expectation of concern. Vaguely thinking also of the people who have found out that their title did not include mining rights - owned by an unfriendly company that subsequently started operations that essentially made the house and property unlivable. Disclosure can be buried in very long and fine print docs, or not necessary thanks to corporate owned legislatures.

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Sat Mar 30, 2013 at 04:10:15 PM PDT

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    •  I'm guessing (1+ / 0-)
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      the houses were put there after the pipeline was in place.  My understanding is that Exxon "repurposed" an existing pipeline to create their Pegasus pipeline system that transports Canadian tar sands crude through Arkansas

      Defund Koch industries

      by machiado on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:36:18 AM PDT

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      •  Pegasus pipeline is 60 years old (2+ / 0-)
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        http://www.arktimes.com/...

        "Martin Maner, retired manager of the watershed for Central Arkansas Water, provided a little background:

        ...the pipeline is a bit more than 60 years old, before the lake was built. It is laid on the "contour of the land," and is typically only a couple feet deep. It is exposed at several places as it crosses the watershed, especially as it crosses tributaries.
        We started correspondence with ExxonMobil several years ago to try to get more protection in place. There should be an extensive file at CAW (Central Arkansas Water).

        When I dug into the issue (after concerns raised by Barry Haas), I was astounded to learn that the then ExxonMobil spill plan didn't even mention that Lake Maumelle was a public water supply! We wrote a detailed letter to the federal regulatory agency (can't remember the name ... been a year or two) and didn't hear a peep on reply. ExxonMobil was cc'd and they did respond. Work was started towards a comprehensive spill plan but I don't think it has been finalized?? There was supposed to be a come to Jesus presentation by officials of ExxonMobil to CAW Board in first qtr of 2012 but seems that fell in the cracks after the new watershed management folks came on board after I retired. It's a helluva major concern because of the proximity to the lake and the volume of crude it carries. Maybe this rupture will get it back on point..."

        Defund Koch industries

        by machiado on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:04:07 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks for your contribution (1+ / 0-)
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          Local knowledge is much appreciated. Perhaps you could diary this.

          We all stand submissively before the global ATM machine network like trained chickens pecking the correct colored buttons to release our grains of corn. Joe Bageant

          by Zwoof on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 10:41:19 AM PDT

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