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  •  Here are new photos (3+ / 0-)
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    Don't know if they'll help...

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    As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

    by JaxDem on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 06:11:07 AM PDT

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    •  After further research, (1+ / 0-)
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      I think it probably is a drop spindle. However, it does not look like it is really made to use, and shows no obvious signs of wear. The piece at the bottom looks like real ivory, and would have served as a bearing.  The top is too fancy to be practical for real use.  I think it was made to be a decorative item, and should be considered a collectable. Until I did some research just now, I did not know there is a community of spindle collectors out there .

      I thought at first the grooves at the top were for some sort of guide for something to ride in them to make the thing move back and forth, but now don't think so. That is wood, and would wear out too quickly. Besides they don't look like they would work as a pulley or track.  

      I am thinking it is too fancy and too fragile to be used as an industrial spindle. If it were to be used, it would be for light use by a home weaver.  

      The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

      by Otteray Scribe on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 08:08:32 AM PDT

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      •  The fine carving in the wood (1+ / 0-)
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        all along the shaft and the outside edges of the rings and the bottom bowl-like piece have an African look to me.  

        Those loose rings are part of the whole piece of wood from which the piece is carved - or more correctly, turned.   They fit exactly on  the ridge of the piece above them.  

        In the middle picture above you can see the top loose ring -- it fits exactly onto the piece just above it from which it was cut.

        I still cannot see this being in any way used as a spindle.  It is a puzzlement.  

        As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

        by JaxDem on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 08:23:12 AM PDT

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        •  I have been looking at pictures off and on (1+ / 0-)
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          for almost two hours.  Nothing comes up, and I have used a number of search parameters.  It looked more oriental to me, but also has an Arts & Crafts  feel. Most spindles have a shaft at both top and bottom, even though the one at the whorl end is often little more than a stub.  Some hand spindles have a of whorl designed to fit in the palm of the hand and look like an awl handle. Those have no stub, but there were not many of those.  

          Despite using a variety of descriptors and combination of key words, I came up empty.  I would think it was a "one-off" piece by some individual artisan, but that little insert at the top is confounding. It looks more factory made; however, woodworkers can buy all kinds of decorative findings and fittings at places such as Woodcraft.

          The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

          by Otteray Scribe on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 10:50:50 AM PDT

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