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  •  Nonsense. Again, look to the (3+ / 0-)
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    Odysseus, patbahn, DocGonzo

    REC model. County and several county systems, with access to the main grid to feed in and out when needed. Rural installations to power farms, metal churches, strip malls and factories directly during their peak daylight usage, village to mid-size town distributed installations on roofs and common acreage as well.

    All that needs is overnight supply if the wind's not blowing, and that can be accomplished by using a little of the daytime excess to pump water if necessary for hydro generation. Which doesn't have to be big time, just has to be enough to power the lowest demand time period.

    Cities will always need a lot of power, though even they could turn off some lights at night - worked out okay for Japan when they lost nearly half their generating capacity one day in 2011 (and a quarter of it isn't ever coming back). Demand is its lowest in many decades right now due to the engineered depression. Which also means people aren't able to pay ever-increasing utility rates and surcharges for new capacity nobody needs.

    Try thinking outside the Megalopolis box. This can be done, now is the perfect time to do it.

    •  Cities could cut LOTS (3+ / 0-)
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      Joieau, Mindful Nature, Calamity Jean

      of power.  Drive through one at night, and look at all the stupid advertising, signs, flashing lights and digital billboards wasting power and lighting the night sky WHILE NO ONE IS EVEN AWAKE to see them.  Cities could conserve a LOT of power, but businesses see all that fancy lighting as a marketing necessity, locked in competition with their neighbors who are similarly ratcheted up in excess spending.  Simple regulations that imposed uniform rules on all the glitz could do wonders, and have been used in just about every highly-developed civilization since Babylon.

    •  If you build vast storage capacity (0+ / 0-)

      That could work.  Otherwise a renewable system with limited storage requires large scale integration.  It could be integration of small legal entities, but it would need to integrate production over large areas if you don't dam every river in the country, etc.

      Ultimately good storage will address a ton of these issues

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescindibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:23:59 PM PDT

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