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  •  I see the (mostly usual) (4+ / 0-)

    nuclear loving crowd is busily poo-pooing in the comments.

    Same old same old 'but what about when the sun doesn't shine' and 'we'll still need transmission!' comments.

    •  I see a small amount (2+ / 0-)
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      of comments supporting nuclear (I don't). As to transmission, of course we need some way to spread this power out. Either distribution of natural gas, or distribution of the power generated by solar cells to places that can't generate enough on their own.

      "The next time everyone will pay for it equally, and there won't be any more Chosen Nations, or any Others. Poor bastards all." ~The Boomer Bible

      by just another vet on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:21:08 AM PDT

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      •  There have been some pretty spiffy improvements in (2+ / 0-)
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        battery technology of late (last few years) that haven't made it to the production stage yet.  Way things are going, 'transmission' might end up meaning battery deliveries rather than expensive to maintain, easy to disrupt power lines in a lot of places.

        •  The holy grail (4+ / 0-)

          as it were. Batteries that is. I am all for it if and when that becomes the norm.

          I guess for me it comes down to having heard this all talked about for some time now. Right now I am designing transmission lines for wind farms. Hope one day solar farms are added to the production side.

          Have felt for a long time that every roof should have panels on them. Those panels should all be connected to a grid so that excess power from one location can be spread to places that need more than they can produce themselves.

          Its a long game that we have to stay committed to. Nothing happens overnight. But it can happen if the will and drive are there and are maintained.

          "The next time everyone will pay for it equally, and there won't be any more Chosen Nations, or any Others. Poor bastards all." ~The Boomer Bible

          by just another vet on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:39:52 AM PDT

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        •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

          But they aren't close to market yet.  Those of us who know something about he grid understand that transmission is a big issue that has to be considered when trying to figure out how to provide reliable zero carbon power.  No amount of hippy dippy wishful thinking changes that basic reality.  

          In the interim until effective storage is deployed at a large scale, what the hell do you do for nighttime base load power?  Answer that without resorting to storage capacity that does not exist yet, please

          Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescindibles.

          by Mindful Nature on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:34:56 PM PDT

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