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  •  I'm sorry you are mistreated in GA. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not talking about GA, though. I'm talking about MA. I can tell you from first hand experience "Fall Festival" has not "taken root" in MA. I've literally never heard of it and I have two school-aged children and plenty of nieces in nephews in towns around Boston. Believe me if any of them went to a school where the principal banned Halloween on religious grounds I'd have heard about it.

    I don't expect you to be happy that even one principal taking an anti-pagan stance, but if your standard is that there must be no bigots at all, even in private, then you'll never be satisfied. Here at least if you were treated the way you were in Hobby Lobby you could call the state AG's anti-discrimination office and you would get help.  So while I feel for you in your bad treatment down there, I think it's a bit of an overreach to say it's just as bad everywhere, and to lump MA in GA when it comes to religious tolerance.  Here private bigotry is socially marginalized and discrimination against non-Christians in public accommodations is outright illegal.

    I doubt a principal in the Boston area would have the nerve to take a publicly anti-Wiccan stance. It seems more likely that "Fall Festival" is a ham-handed attempt at inclusiveness, since Evangelicals are a tiny, negligible political bloc.

    I've lost my faith in nihilism

    by grumpynerd on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 01:47:39 PM PDT

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    •  I never said it was as bad in MA (0+ / 0-)

      as in GA. I simply said if even one school in  the mot liberal state has been gotten to--it's a tad scary to someone who GREW UP in Connecticut. And I don't know why they called it Fall Festival because I cannot think any reason other than parental complaint that they would change the name. ESPECIALLY since Halloween as celebrated in America is a purely secular holiday. For Wiccans,. it is Samhain, and unlike fundies, we don't proselytize.

      As to a principal not caving--well, I can tell you that there are some active fundies in your area. Salem has a long Halloween celebration, rather touristy. But for years, the local Wiccans held an open circle to which anyone can come. After several years of having it disrupted by the local fundies, they had to move it indoors and make it invitation only. ANd why shouldn't I expect no bigotry? CHRISTIANS do, and if someone violated their beliefs, in the tiniest way, the fundies maike sure the whole nation hears about it.

      I also doubt strongly that if I reported it to the AG, had the Hobby Lobby incident occurred in MA ,that HL would admit the truth.  They'd make up some story about thinking I was shop-lifting or the like.  Proving religious discrimination is almost impossible unless I had video of it, and then, as I said, they'd come up with an alternative explanation.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:22:36 PM PDT

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