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  •  Nurses work 3 shifts a week (1+ / 0-)
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    ..where we live, and make between $40K and $70K, depending on where they live, with benefits. Not anything like a WalMart job.

    If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

    by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 07:43:06 AM PDT

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    •  That's right (0+ / 0-)

      nurses have such an easy job...

      "We’re not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people." - Rep. Paul Ryan

      by Khun David on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 07:59:32 AM PDT

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      •  Did I say "easy"? JFC. (0+ / 0-)

        Please don't put words in my mouth, that's unbelievably obnoxious. Nurses don't have easy jobs. Neither do cops or firefighters. The difference is that they tend to be more appropriately compensated and treated with some modicum of respect, and (with nurses) their hours are an understood part of their contract--they trade a 12-hr day for a shorter work week. I have had nurses close to me my whole life. WalMart workers have no such respect or leverage.

        If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

        by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 09:29:28 PM PDT

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    •  Night Nurses (if they are RNs)..... (1+ / 0-)
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      also go to either a 2 or 4 year program & take a statewide
      examination to earn their degrees.

      Their responsibilities & accountability are quite different from those of the average Walmart employee.  Nurses can
      be sued for medical malpractice.  

      As a night shift RN for 25 years, I felt I earned every penny of my salary over the years.  

      •  Yes, of course you have. (0+ / 0-)

        So have cops, firefighters and teachers. No one is saying you are overpaid. Just saying that you can't compare a WalMart worker's situation to a nurse's, unless you wanted to argue that you're horribly exploited and mistreated.

        If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

        by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 09:32:31 PM PDT

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        •  I could argue that pretty easily. (1+ / 0-)
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          If it wasn't 3:45 am. No, haven't worked for going on two years. As far as pay, it's decidedly under. Nurses jobs are analogous in skills, education, responsibility, etc. to pharmacists and you can easily guess the salary is way lower.  It's established as one of the most stressful jobs due to the discrepancy in responsibility and authority.

          One of my problems with discussions that bring up teachers, firefighters, paramedics and police, is that they often leave out nurses - probably because most are not public employees. There are a lot of other ways we are forgotten. Our benefits often aren't as good as the others.  Some of us get a little sensitive about it all.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 02:51:19 AM PDT

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          •  I understand. (0+ / 0-)

            As someone with 2 Masters degrees and a PhD whose field has been overtaken by insourced and offshored labor that is firing top candidates in favor of cheap labor and driving wages into the pit (no seriously--the PIT), I understand what it is to be sensitive. We also put our kid through 5 years of large-and-small-animal veterinary school (imagine what that cost) only to watch her get massively exploited by a for-profit veterinary outfit that pays her less than a starting kindergarten teacher. Things are tough all over, and you're right, public employees' jobs are protected in ways that private ones aren't.

            But this diary was about WalMart employees and their unique issues, I don't think it was appropriate to dismiss their concerns by comparing systemic wage theft to what is mostly a negotiated 12-hr day 3 days a week (yes, there are exceptions, but those aren't yet so systemic) .

            If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

            by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 11:26:39 AM PDT

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