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  •  Malcolm Smith was arrested today (19+ / 0-)

    And good riddance, I suppose.

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    by wwmiv on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:40:05 AM PDT

    •  After all his State Senate hijinks (19+ / 0-)

      this is so karmic justice.  That he was bribing Republican party honchos to "draft" him for a GOP mayoral bid just makes him look that much more pathetic -- though I can't complain that he's taking down a number of GOP party leaders with him!

    •  Wonder if this improves the odds (8+ / 0-)

      of the IDC coming back into the fold, if the Senate Democratic leadership ranks are shaken up. There is already tension brewing between the IDC and Skelos over (totally unpredictable) GOP stonewalling.

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      by TrueBlueDem on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:57:05 AM PDT

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      •  Not in the slightest. (3+ / 0-)
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        If anything it makes it less likely.

        Just consider this.  Part of their agreement was cutting the already imbalanced staff budgets of the Democratic caucus and giving that money to the IDC.  IDC membership gives you a guaranteed committee chair, more money, a bigger staff, and a massive ego boost as you play kingmaker.

        Let's also not forget vindictiveness.  Smith and Klein lost their jobs due to their incredible incompetence including the handling of the Gang of Four 1.0.  And Klein was bitter about losing his next job heading the losing effort to retain the Democratic majority in the Senate.  This is payback.

        It also gives you plausible deniability for anything.  Remember when the IDC members moaned that public financing of elections was impossible due to Republican opposition?

        The latest is the city mayoral/public advocate race.  Right now with the election equipment the city and rules on sending absentee ballots it is literally impossible to have a runoff election two weeks after the primary.  Senate Republicans blocked moving the election date earlier.  And they are certainly not going to help fund a stopgate solution to re-use the old non-computerized election equipment in the second round.

        Now while that is potentially a disaster of epic proportions for the time being this is the infuriating part.  Listening to Diane Savino's people blame Senate Republicans when it is only the agreement that the IDC struck with them that gives them this veto power they are abusing.  Yet everyone nods and laps it up.

        The lady was enchanted and said they ought to see. So they charged her with subversion and made her watch TV -Spirogyra

        by Taget on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:45:11 AM PDT

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        •  Savino's your Senator, right? (1+ / 0-)
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          If possible, go to a town hall meeting and ask some penetrating questions about the IDC's faults and what it would take for them to stop this BS and give Dems the majority they've earned and that any deal which gives Republicans anything more than minority status is against the voters.

          "...and as I learned higher joys, so I learned neither to harm, nor to wish harm upon others." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

          by KingofSpades on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:52:06 AM PDT

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    •  Also WATN: Dan Halloran was arrested too (6+ / 0-)

      for assisting in the scheme.

      28, Male, MA-07 (hometown MI-06)

      by bumiputera on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 07:29:12 AM PDT

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    •  So what's up with the hijinks in New York State? (2+ / 0-)
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      I haven't heard much about the state legislature, other than the fact that Republicans and Democrats in name only control at least one portion of the legislature, and that Cuomo has pulled some sneaky tactics in that regard.

      So could someone fill me in on the details?

      Leftist Mormon in Utah, Born in Washington State, live in UT-04 (Matheson).

      by Gygaxian on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 07:58:40 AM PDT

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      •  Well (4+ / 0-)
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        The theory goes that Cuomo tacitly rooted for a Republican State Senate because 1) he's a fiscal conservative, and 2) he's probably running for the 2016 Dem nomination and didn't want any far-left bills from coming to his desk (because then he would have to sign them or risk the Democratic primary, even if his own convictions opposed those bills). He's also had a good working relationship with Senate Republicans and Dean Skelos so there's nothing sneaky about it, just Cuomo being a douche to his own party for his own political gain (what else is new?). But that and this Smith thing aren't really related at all.

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        by gigantomachyusa on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:06:42 AM PDT

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    •  What's the breakdown of the NY Senate now? (1+ / 0-)
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      I think the Republicans and the IDC have a healthy majority even with Smith gone but if we can get some fallout from this to implicate other members of their caucus then this could be an amazing turn of events for New York Senate Dems.

      21, Male, Latino-Spanish, OK-1 (Tulsa: The Art Deco, Terracotta, and Cultural Gem of Green Country!); Currently studying in Madrid, Spain

      by gigantomachyusa on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:00:52 AM PDT

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    •  Has anyone ever gotten into so much trouble (7+ / 0-)

      for such a worthless prize?  

      If this was the Democratic nomination for mayor I could understand, but the GOP one?

      23, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-01 (college).

      by Jeff Singer on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:19:31 AM PDT

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      •  Keep in mind (5+ / 0-)

        The NYC hasn't had a Democratic mayor since 1993. That's likely to change now, of course, but I wouldn't rule the GOP out just yet.

        •  Christine Quinn can unite New Yorkers much better (2+ / 0-)
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          than past Dem nominees where it's always a dogfight primary that ruins their chances.

          "...and as I learned higher joys, so I learned neither to harm, nor to wish harm upon others." -Nietzche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

          by KingofSpades on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:59:27 AM PDT

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        •  Every GOPer is staring at a massive polling (1+ / 0-)
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          deficit against every Dem.  Yeah things can change, and the GOP loves to hold up 2001 as an example where they overcame a huge early gap in the polls to win.  But given the very unusual events of that year (to say the least) I wouldn't bet on history repeating itself.  Smith basically threw whatever future he had away on the off chance that the GOP can keep defying gravity in NYC: not a remotely good decision.

          23, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-01 (college).

          by Jeff Singer on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 09:00:24 AM PDT

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          •  The thing people seem to be forgetting (2+ / 0-)
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            or, at least, not acknowledging, is that Adolfo Carrion (former Dem Bronx Borough President) is running on the Independence Party line. If/when Quinn inevitably wins the Dem primary, that leaves Carrion as the only person of color in the race, potentially splitting the traditional Dem coalition and handing the GOP nominee the win. Especially if the race gets ugly and people of color think Bill Thompson was unfairly treated, they will not support Quinn.

            I don't think any of this is especially likely to happen, but I don't think it's impossible. Both Joe Lhota and John Catsimatidis seem likeable enough personally to appeal to people.

        •  I dunno (1+ / 0-)
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          The GOP has had to pick its spots in electing mayors. La Guardia got in essentially because everyone who wasn't Tammany Hall decided they'd had enough of Tammany mismanagement and got behind him, many of them reluctantly as the least bad choice (many powerful Republicans hated him but couldn't block him). He was probably the most liberal candidate running that year. Lindsay was actually the left-most candidate during his elections, prior to actually becoming a Democrat. Rudy ran well to the left of his party and Dinkins was perceived as a failed mayor in 1993 (the latter's reputation has recovered enormously since then). Bloomberg had bad opponents and 9/11, and formally left the GOP a long time ago anyway.

          I see nothing like that here. After two decades of GOP/center-right indy governance, time for a change is a pretty irresistible message. Dems have always had a massive registration advantage in the City, the GOP has never had to deal with public opinion so unfavorable to them, and the city itself has seen politics move substantially to the left over the past decade. Bloomberg probably couldn't get elected as a new candidate in an open seat this year, and none of their guys seem like Bloomberg. The assumption has to be that this is likely D at least.

    •  Though unfortunately (1+ / 0-)
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      He won't be automatically booted from the Senate until he's convicted.

      25, Practical Progressive Democrat (-9.38, -8.51), Gay, IN-02 - Defeat Wacky Jackie for 2014!

      by HoosierD42 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 04:05:10 PM PDT

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