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  •  Thanks for posting the degree of anger (2+ / 0-)
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    Minnesota Mike, ArkDem14

    I have towards the president for proposing Chained CPI. The politics aren't as dire as some people seem to think.

    "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

    by conspiracy on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 08:04:04 AM PDT

    •  I'd love it if you'd elaborate. (2+ / 0-)
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      bythesea, LordMike

      The main DK is--predictably--flipping a shit, so I'd love to hear your take.

      (I'm kind of on the fence here.  I know this will never be made law without revenue, and the GOP won't bend on revenue, so it won't happen.  On the other hand, I really hate any Democrat going on record proposing catfood.)

      I did find this interesting: http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

      •  I have to part ways (9+ / 0-)

        with the main site on this and most other budget issues.  They were flipping shits a few months ago over Obama's tax/budget negotiations, urging Democrats to jump off the full fiscal cliff, and so what if there was a recession?  At least we'll maintain our progressive pride!

        I'm not a fan of chained CPI, but I'm at a loss for anything better that could realistically form the basis of a deficit reduction deal that can pass.

        37, MD-8 (MD-6 after 2012) resident, NOVA raised, Euro/Anglophile Democrat

        by Mike in MD on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:14:53 AM PDT

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        •  Talk to me (0+ / 0-)

          in a few months, when the sequester he didn't get rid of in his "fiscal cliff" deal is still with us and we're in recession.

          Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 12:33:39 PM PDT

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    •  The politics are horrid... (1+ / 0-)
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      ArkDem14

      Only  handful of GOP'ers would vote for the plan 'cos it's not "austere enough", and every Democrat voting for it would be hammered with ads about how they gutted Social Security (and that would be the truth).

      The only way that politics aren't bad is if it gets 75% of the votes in congress.  But, that won't happen.  If it passes, it pretty much kills our chances of winning the house for a generation.

      Fortunately, the teabaggers will kill it and save Obama from himself, as always.

      GODSPEED TO THE WISCONSIN FOURTEEN!

      by LordMike on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 08:52:40 AM PDT

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      •  My biggest worry (2+ / 0-)
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        is that Democrats will be hammered with attacks simply because Obama proposed chained CPI.

        Since this has no chance of passing anyway, I hope House and Senate Dems  go on record immediately opposing safety net cuts.  This is exactly why I'm glad folks like Alan Grayson are back in the House, even if they're not the most popular people here.

        •  The source of the proposal is meaningless (3+ / 0-)
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          LordMike, ArkDem14, jncca

          Hypotheticals are difficult to attack. See Democratic efforts to run against the Ryan budget. Actual passage is what matters and to do that it takes Republican votes. The Medicare attacks were so potent because the GOP could say they opposed them even though in reality they want far deeper cuts.

          "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

          by conspiracy on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:20:02 AM PDT

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      •  "That would be the truth" (1+ / 0-)
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        ArkDem14

        No it wouldn't. This is the problem I have - exaggeration when anybody proposes anything. This on the left, guns on the right or whatever. It will take significant Republican votes to pass because a significant number of Democrats will oppose it. And the only way it would pass is with revenue and then you have primary challengers cropping up on the right over a second tax increase.

        "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

        by conspiracy on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 09:15:48 AM PDT

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