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  •  Buddhists are much more likely to forgive than (1+ / 0-)
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    Islamic extremists. I've read that the Pashtun culture requires vengeance when one's family is injured or killed.

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    by FrY10cK on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:37:31 AM PDT

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    •  If you are going to say stuff like this (1+ / 0-)
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      I've read that the Pashtun culture requires vengeance when one's family is injured or killed.
      You should link to it so you don't sound racist.

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 09:29:16 AM PDT

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      •  Wikipedia is of course only a starting point ... (2+ / 0-)
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        but here's your start:

        The Pathan tribes are always engaged in private or public war. Every man is a warrior, a politician and a theologian. Every large house is a real feudal fortress....Every family cultivates its vendetta; every clan, its feud.... Nothing is ever forgotten and very few debts are left unpaid.
        Winston Churchill (My Early Life - Chapter 11: The Mahmund Valley)
        More at the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        I personally know one Muslim family who uses the word "Islam" to mean "Peace" when they meet and when they part so one needs to be careful not to paint with too broad a brush.

        But it seems pretty darn obvious that many more Muslims have been radicalized to the point of violence (some with good justification) than Buddhists. That's the point I'm trying to make about blowback. It's coming, I'm afraid.

        What we need is a United States Peace and Justice Academy to siphon off some of the millions we spend on West Point, Annapolis, and USAFA.

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        by FrY10cK on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 10:36:17 AM PDT

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        •  You aren't aware of what is going on in Myanmar (0+ / 0-)

          apparently:

          many more Muslims have been radicalized to the point of violence (some with good justification) than Buddhists

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 11:17:05 AM PDT

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          •  No, I'm not. (2+ / 0-)
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            I'll try to keep up.

            But I'm guessing that violence isn't directed at the U.S.

            Again, my point is that Southeast Asians have forgiven us. Iraq, Pashtun tribal areas, and much of the Arab world may never forgive us unless we can make some amends and stop with the drone attacks. How that will happen I have no idea.

            A Marshall Plan for Iraq and Afghanistan?

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            by FrY10cK on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 11:57:31 AM PDT

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    •  Pashtun ethical code (2+ / 0-)
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      has a fair amount of Buddhist influence on it, actually.

      It's very old. It's pre-Islamic in origin. It comes from a time when Afghanistan had important Buddist centers of thought.

      American warfighting manages to run afoul of Pashtunwali in strongly intertwining ways. Our practice of blasting away treelines and orchards and such, for example, that runs afoul of the requirement to protect the land.

      You can see the American response in Afghanistan and Iraq as an absurdly ramped up revenge standard, too. We couldn't find who harmed us. So we just went on a revenge spree against whatever loosely related persons we could find.

      •  Especially given at least anecdotal evidence (1+ / 0-)
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        that the Taliban, who in May of 2001 received a check for $30,000,000.00+ from the US for helping eradicate opium cultivation, were pissed off by Osama bin Laden double-crossing them by attacking the US.  Taliban had made bid Laden assure them he would not attack the US from Afghanistan as a condition of entry.

        They apparently also offered to enter negotiations to turn bin Laden over to a third party country.

        But, let's face it, Bush, Cheney and the neocon warmongering assholes wanted to commence their Plan for the New American Century, and that required invading Afghanistan and Iraq.

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by bobdevo on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 02:24:58 PM PDT

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