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  •  Adam Lanza killed himself but his crimes (3+ / 0-)
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    were worse. He killed a lot more people and most were children. John Wayne Gacy killed dozens, one at a time. Holmes is not the worst.

    •  That's true, but it doesn't change the argument. (1+ / 0-)
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           Would, for example, Heinrich Himmler deserve the death penalty ?

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 04:18:15 PM PDT

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    •  I really don't care if he is "the" worst... (1+ / 0-)
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      he certainly is worst enough.  I am more concerned with teh families of those he killed--they have suffered such a great loss already and to let them go on knowing the killer is still here just seems to add unecessarily to their burden.  If a killer has no chance of getting out again, I really don't care to spend money keeping him in prision conditons that should be designed to rehabilitate prisoners.

      If Jesus had a gun, he'd be alive today. Homer Simpson, 2013

      by quiet in NC on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 04:53:48 PM PDT

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      •  Does killing the killer (4+ / 0-)

        Really make the victims family feel better? Does it give them any more closure than seeing the man dragged off to prison? It takes so long to execute anyone in this country (other than in TX) I would hope the victims families found peace way before the justice system acted.

        I wonder, is it better to picture someone rotting away in prison or rotting away in hell? (and what if you don't believe in afterlife?) I don't know the answer and I suspect it varies from person to person.

        •  according to (4+ / 0-)
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          deathpenalty dot org, the death penalty can prolong suffering for victims' families.

          The death penalty process is a traumatizing experience for families, often requiring them to relive the pain and suffering of the death of their loved one for many years. Life without parole provides certain punishment without the endless reopening of wounds.

          Old saying, the devil’s greatest trick is that he convinced people that he doesn’t exist. Well, white supremacy’s greatest trick is that it has convinced people that, if it exists at all, it exists always in other people, never in us. -Junot Díaz

          by Avila on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 08:10:47 PM PDT

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      •  Not all the families of murder victims... (3+ / 0-)

        ...feel that way. See here and here.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 08:06:36 PM PDT

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      •  My father (2+ / 0-)
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        wrote an opinion about the death penalty which included statistics that showed that executing murderers did not give survivors the closure they believed it would.

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