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  •  Link to the article? (4+ / 0-)

    Here, I found something about it.

    I don't think it's bad that commenters are giving him the benefit of the doubt.  If someone I knew and liked was arrested on similar charges, I doubt I'd believe it either.  I'd want my friend, husband, son to be presumed innocent.  

    It's entirely possible he is innocent, and someone else using his computer is responsible.  The article said he had an adult daughter at home with him - perhaps one of her friends/boyfriends?  Our system does presume innocence until guilt proven, and that's a good thing.  

    I think background is important and relevant.  If he'd had a history of problems with the law or bankruptcy, those would also be in the public record and mentioned in the article.  

    We do not forgive. We do not forget. The whole world is watching.

    by Tracker on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:35:25 AM PDT

    •  I just noticed it didn't (3+ / 0-)

      show up. For some reason I can't use the link option. I just pasted it in so people can read the article. GRRR, not enough coffee.

      ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

      by Kristina40 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:39:19 AM PDT

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    •  Okay, I agree which is why (4+ / 0-)

      I said "alleged" crimes. That still doesn't explain why there is no sympathy whatsoever for the victims. None. Also, the article states items were found in the home (implies not on computer) and he was investigated for over a month so you can bet they were monitoring his online movements and corroborating it with surveillance. I know this because I know how they work on cyber investigations. I have friends facing many, many years in prison of hacktivism and that is how it is done.

      ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

      by Kristina40 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:45:52 AM PDT

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    •  And if he is found guilty (3+ / 0-)

      I think it's important to emphasize how wonderful he seemed to the community. These people can be the most dangerous of pedeophiles. Not all child molester's look creepy. Don't let your guard down because someone doesn't look like a creep.

      Now about the victims: I hope those kids are now in a safe environment. Perhaps this evidence can help track them down and ensure their safety. If there were any victims blaming this man for doing things to them, I'd be far less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just pictures on a computer he owns? don't tar and feather him yet.

      •  I don't agree (5+ / 0-)

        with "just pictures". Someone is in those pictures and is being raped so these creeps can "enjoy" looking at them. He is also charged with transmission of child pornography which means he was sharing it.

        ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

        by Kristina40 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 07:16:25 AM PDT

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        •  It means someone was sharing it (0+ / 0-)

          The fact that it is Just pictures doesn't mean it isn't a horrible crimes, just less evidence it was him. Unless HE is in the pictures, it doesn't really make a strong implication that HE is guilty. A child saying that it was HIM is different.

          People get hacked. People who want to do illegal things often prefer to use a hacked computer instead of their own. Our computers at work were hacked by someone who wanted to illegally share mp3's. You better hope you are never condemed for someone else's crime committed on your computer.

          •  I'm actually pretty familiar (0+ / 0-)

            with hackers and I'm also pretty familiar with standard MO for cyber investigations. They will physically surveil the house when things are being transmitted to lock down his presence to when the computer goes on and offline. ;) I have friends facing 30 years to life right now for alleged hacks so yeah, I know how the Feds do their magic.

            ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

            by Kristina40 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 04:52:08 AM PDT

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    •  Informed opinion (2+ / 0-)
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      One of the things that informs my opinion on this issue is that a case like this is not just taken without thought.

      A guy was renting office space from a firm of a friend of mine.  The renter was also a pedophile.  The authorities explained that these sorts of arrests are not made without serious investigation.  The officer basically said that people don't get busted for accidentally clicking on a link.  They have to actively search out the material for the arrests to be made.

      He is clearly innocent right now.  THat's just the law.  It's just that the information about how these cases are carried out does not look good for his innocence.

       

      Streichholzschächtelchen

      by otto on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 08:17:05 AM PDT

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      •  Cases like this (1+ / 0-)
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        are rare because they are difficult to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Most DA's won't touch something like this without a mountain of evidence, especially against a politically powerful person.

        In my experience in the courts, if a person gets charged in public with this (heinous and inexcusable) crime, the evidence is usually overwhelming.  And even then, they usually get convicted of only a small proportion of the charges, and get very little time.

        Because there are almost always doubts.  Was it him or someone else who had access to his computer?  What excuses were made?  etc.

        I can't comment on punishment because that kind of comments would rightly get me banned from here.

        I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

        by trumpeter on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 10:16:12 AM PDT

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