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  •  Afraid I need to disagree with you. Many of those (4+ / 0-)

    in the Episcopal Church who strongly support marriage equality do so with arguments drawn from the bible - exactly as many abolitionists drew arguments from the bible. It is a question of different levels of meaning and which aspects are relevant to which settings.

    One of the most radical acts of the early church was to include the book of Acts in the canon. A key episode there was changing tradition. The question arose, did gentiles need circumcission and keeping kosher to become Christian? By giving an account of how the church reflected on this question and deciding to change tradition, the canon itself contains provision for changing tradition and re-reading scripture.

    If you want the citations often used in support of marriage equality I would be happy to provide them.



    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 12:13:59 PM PDT

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    •  Here's a link to the one I did (1+ / 0-)
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      "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

      by Navy Vet Terp on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:56:19 PM PDT

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      •  Very interesting - thank you. Those are two of the (1+ / 0-)
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        passages I've discussed in a course on changing tradition.

        Someone else said (I'm forgetting now who) that the passage refers to men having sexual relations on a woman's bed - were they mistaken about that?



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 07:24:00 PM PDT

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        •  Never heard that (1+ / 0-)
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          And I am sure if that was there, the rabbis who wrote the responsum in 2006 recognizing marriage equality would have seized on it to justify their new position.  Rereading Sanhedrin 54 (you can google it if you wish), it's got a lot of x rated stuff, more focused on incest, bestiality and child rape for some reason than consensal gay relationships.  

          "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

          by Navy Vet Terp on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 07:36:50 PM PDT

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        •  I've never heard that interpretation either (1+ / 0-)
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          although looking at the Hebrew, that is possibly what it could mean ...

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