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  •  Thanks for the update but how much of these (8+ / 0-)

    decreases can be attributed to Nestle stealing billions of gallons of water from Lake Michigan and its tributaries?

    http://wearemichigan.com/...

    Michigan: Pay Now. Pay Later.
    Water levels in the Great Lakes are projected to significantly fall—by about a meter in Lakes Michigan-Huron—over the next several decades, placing system connectivity throughout the Great Lakes at risk; by 2030, connectivity could fall by approximately 25%.

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    3 According to a new study, a failure to mitigate the effects of climate change could begin to cause serious gross domestic product and job losses within the next several decades. Between 2010 and 2050, it could cost Michigan $18.3 billion in GDP and nearly 108,000 jobs.

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    TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — Despite having more fresh water than anywhere else in the world, the Great Lakes region could experience shortages in some locations because of climate shifts or surging demand, a federal analysis says. The five-year study by the U.S. Geological Survey, obtained by The Associated Press ahead of its scheduled release Monday, describes the Great Lakes as an aquatic treasure trove. The lakes themselves have 6 quadrillion gallons — enough to spread a foot-deep layer across North America, South America and Africa — and the volume of groundwater surpasses that of Lake Huron.

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    The State Senate just narrowly passed legislation that would allow up to 25% of some of our precious lakes and rivers to be open for withdrawal! Yes, you heard me right, up to 25% of some of our best waterways. If that wasn't bad enough, the Senate allowed provisions that undermine public control over our water.

    The Documentary, "FLOW":

    And this isn't about denying climate change in any way shape or form here.  These corporate bastards are stealing the very water we need to survive as a species, for profit.

    -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

    by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 11:47:40 AM PDT

    •  If you can't afford their bottled water, then (8+ / 0-)

      maybe you should move elsewhere, or die.  It doesn't make much difference to them.  The executives can afford their own product.

      Here in the arid west, Fracking is consuming millions of gallons of water which is far less prevalent than in the Great Lakes.  What they don't consume, gets polluted.

      All for the almighty dollar.  Mammon rules, and I, unfortunately, am part of the problem as I consume the products of these evil things.

      •  Bottled water is a scourge (7+ / 0-)

        It is mostly just tap water and the single use plastic bottles fill landfills, pollute waterways and kill wildlife when littered.  Do without.  It is just a hedge to make up for declining soda sales.  Get a steel bottle and refill it.  One more way to strike a blow against corporatization of resources.

        The scientific uncertainty doesn't mean that climate change isn't actually happening.

        by Mimikatz on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 03:14:50 PM PDT

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        •  I was foolish enough to buy one of those (2+ / 0-)
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          "soda-streams"...I really haven't drank soda for years but it looked like a great idea.  

          Don't ever put the syrup in and then try to add more "fizz" to it...trust me...

          Dang it, it only took me two weeks to find where all the soda went to finally forcing me to repaint the kitchen.

          I must say now that I've learned what not to do, the flavors aren't all that bad and you can get aspertame, HFC free flavors as well.  

          Best flavors so far are the Crystal Light-Peach Iced Tea and Cranberry-Raspberry.

          And as little as I drink, it will most likely last me the next 20 yrs.

           

          -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

          by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 03:22:17 PM PDT

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        •  I'm fortunate to live in Denver, where the water (2+ / 0-)
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          from the tap routinely tests out as some of the best-tasting in the country.  I've visited areas with sulfurous water and I'd be drinking bottled water there if I drank water at all.

          Most bottled water seems to me to be stale.

          •  You get used to it... (3+ / 0-)
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            Y'all wouldn't believe some of the drinking/tap water here in So. TX (especially in years past), urk. The aroma(s), the turbidity, the taste(s), deelish...

            "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

            by Bluefin on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:54:11 PM PDT

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    •  Billions of gallons? (5+ / 0-)

      That's a big number.

      A gallon is 231 cubic inches.
      A billion gallons is therefore 231,000,000,000 cubic inches.
      The surface area of the Great Lakes is 94,250 square miles.
      A square mile has 4,014,489,600 square inches. The surface area of the Great Lakes is therefore 3.7x10^14 square inches.

      It would therefore require Nestle to bottle and ship 1638 billion gallons of water to drop the level of the lakes by an inch.

      Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

      by blue aardvark on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 12:13:11 PM PDT

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      •  Those bastards! See? See? Now we're talking! (3+ / 0-)

        Thanks for pointing out the math for me..

        Ugh....opps...

        LMFAO...

        ;)

        Maybe I shudda said "millions"???

        Millions just doesn't seem like a lot, really..

        ;(

        Besides with all the water in the Great Lakes, 6 quadrillion gallons...it could cover The American Continents (North & South) and the African Continent with a foot of water.

        So, I extrapolated a bit.  I saw the documentary a while ago and was disgusted at what they were doing.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 01:08:34 PM PDT

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      •  Hey, here's some more facts... (4+ / 0-)

        http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...

        In August, Nestle Waters North America was granted permits for a new well and pipeline at its Ice Mountain facility in Mecosta County, Mich., where it bottles 700,000 gallons a day. Nestle also recently renewed permits for its plant in Guelph, Ontario. Both have sparked vocal opposition from those who say the industry is privatizing a public good and harming the
        700,000 x 365 = 255,500,000

        Hummm...maybe I wasn't off when I said billions.  I know, I know, I made the number up but I knew it was big, really big.

        And this was in 2007, so 2007 minus 2013 = 6 yrs times 2.55 million equals 1,533,000,000 billion gallons.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 01:19:26 PM PDT

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    •  Betcha T. Boone Pickens figured out a way (1+ / 0-)
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      to secretly tunnel into the lake bottom(s) and siphon out water into one of his dream projects (or sell it to the oil industry fraccers).

      "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

      by Bluefin on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:49:46 PM PDT

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