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  •  It would be best for Blades to not cite Columbine (0+ / 0-)

    1) The law enforcement response at Columbine was extremely incompetent -- as was acknowledged by the law enforcement profession itself.   The responsible Sheriff and several of his deputies refused to testify before the Governors Commission in spite of several promises to do so.  

     2) The law enforcement professionals who did testify acknowledged that that the  "traditional approach" of securing the perimeter and waiting for SWAT was totally inadequate when active shooters were killing.

    Of course, that policing was not really "traditional".   Traditionally, a man who accepted the gun and badge agreed to accept some risk defending the community -- instead of hiding behind cover and letting  children be  slaughtered.  

    3) The top recommendation of the Commission was that the police change their risk-averse, self- serving procedures and move immediately to confront and defeat active shooters.  

    See http://www.state.co.us/...  

    •  They accept the gun and the badge (0+ / 0-)

      But we pay them jack shit.  Risk aversion is entirely sensible given the shameful way we treat those injured or killed in service of the public.  They accept some risk, but there has to be a limit.

      "And the President of the United States - would be seated right here. I would be here. And he would be here. I would turn - and there he’d be. I could pet ‘im." - Lewis Black

      by libdevil on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 07:55:32 AM PDT

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    •  It would be best to note that it was the... (5+ / 0-)

      ...NSS folks, not I, who brought up Columbine. And they lied about what actually happened.

      But, having covered numerous police shootings as a reporter in Denver and Los Angeles, and having personally witnessed three while they were in progress, some cops will take the risk and some will not. But most of their bullets will not hit their targets. In one case in Los Angeles in 1986, three officers fired 30 rounds at a fleeing, handcuffed, unarmed arrestee who slipped out of their control. They missed him every time. But where did those bullets actually land?

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 08:21:02 AM PDT

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