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  •  Maybe fascism could start w/corporations taking (13+ / 0-)

    over the government.  Corporations are people too, my friend.

    Fiscal conservative: a Republican ready to spend $5 to save a dime--especially if that dime is helping a non-donor.

    by Mayfly on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:02:20 PM PDT

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    •  good point (2+ / 0-)
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      Old Lefty, Mayfly

      My avatar image is a photograph I took in 2008 of the headwaters of a waterfall in the imperiled Parque Nacional de Garajonay, a UNESCO World Heritage Site on La Gomera, birthplace of my grandfather, in the Canary Islands not far from the Sahara Desert.

      by Galtisalie on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:06:19 PM PDT

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    •  That's already happening (6+ / 0-)

      For the most part, though, this hasn't resulted in what most people associate with fascism, e.g. concentration camps, disappearances, beatings, executions (although if you're poor or black and live in a major city, it's often a distinction without a difference, of course). What some of these people appear to believe is that this IS happening, or is about to, or would, were it not for their guns.

      They actually seem to believe that they're modern day militia called up to fight the modern day equivalent of the Redcoats, and that they and their guns are all that stand between tyranny and freedom.

      The thing is, I don't think it's any longer far-fetched that we someday could have full-blown "hard" fascism in the US, with camps, beatings, executions, etc. There are certainly enough crazy and hateful far-right authoritarians in the US who'd love that to happen. But if it does happen, it'll almost certainly come from such types exploiting an economic downturn that would make the one we're in look like child's play, and the ensuing chaos, breakdown in order and public anger and fear. I.e. the very same wingnuts who are disproportionately loading up on guns and angry at "big guvmint".

      I don't think that all extreme RKBA types are at all aligned with such types. Certainly not the ones on this site. At least not wittingly. But inadvertently, they're only helping them, by making implicit common cause with them with their anti-government, anti-gun control, paranoid stance.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 06:19:48 PM PDT

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    •  DID start, you mean? (0+ / 0-)

      I am a leaf on the wind - i hover, twirl, float,
      Weightless, frictionless, I fly

      by chmood on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:43:13 AM PDT

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