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  •  Really? Did you know the Federal prosecutor (4+ / 0-)

    in Houston has just resigned from prosecuting the case against 34 members of the ABofT due to security concerns?

    I wonder how closely you've really followed this.  

    Yes, there may be some other issue here, but until the cases are solved, we know for sure that the head of the Colorado prison system was assassinated by an AB member who was then killed in Texas, and not that far (about 100 miles) from Kaufman County.

    (Ballistics tests matched the gun used in Colorado to the gun used in the shoot-out with police in Texas)

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Tue Apr 02, 2013 at 10:50:54 PM PDT

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    •  That killer was 211 affiliated, FYI (0+ / 0-)

      so we Know For Sure your info via your close following is Wrong.

       Do you have proof that 211 has now allied with TABOT or AB (two separate entities, again you may want to slow your roll and study this, since we're talking race war and all)?

      The fact that shooter was killed in TX probably has more to do with what lies south of the southern TX border than anything else, what was he gonna break into a TX prison so he could sleep next to his gang daddies too? A fairly weak reasoning IMHO, but your free to flow with it if it removes the T from your CT......

      The two TX murders may be linked, and also linked to the federal prosecutor abandoning his post, but those linked events are as much the start of a race war as Jesus on a Stale Sandwich signals the Rapture.

      If a white race gang wanted to start a race riot in prison, they wouldn't start by killing 2 white guards now would they? Puzzle It Out.

      •  Wow, two in a row. Abrasive, much? n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 12:13:27 AM PDT

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      •  One, I do not beleive a race war is going (0+ / 0-)

        to break out. But the AB may. They are sorta deluded in that way.  

        Two, there are a lot of people besides me conflating the two events, including a senior fellow of the Southern Poverty Law Center which follows hate groups pretty closely.

        The gang Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is, as I said, incredibly vicious. It’s known to have committed more than 100 murders and 10 kidnappings, going back to when it was formed in the early 1980s. Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is not actually related to the larger national group, the Aryan Brotherhood, which is another white supremacist prison gang. In fact, back in the early '80s when it was formed, a group of white Texas inmates actually asked the Aryan Brotherhood for permission to start a chapter of the group, and they were refused. They went ahead and started their own group, Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, anyway. You know, it's structured in some ways similarly to the larger Aryan Brotherhood. It’s got a paramilitary structure. It calls its leaders generals and majors and lieutenants and colonels and all that sort of thing.
        ...
        The 211 name reportedly comes from the California code for robbery. And why that is, I can’t say. But apparently, you know, the larger Aryan Brotherhood was started in California, and it may be that the 211 Crew in some way were looking up to them. In any case, that is what the gang is like. It’s really quite something. They’ve—as I say, they’ve increasingly kind of spilled out onto the streets.
        Both modeled after the California AB. Both spilling out into the streets from prisons. Both dealing heavily in meth as well as other drugs. Both requiring "earning" income on the streets for the benefit and at the command of leaders. "Earning" also includes hits or violence as directed, on the streets or in the prisons. Both vicious in attacking other races in prison.

        Above, you made the statement that

        There is little evidence ABT was involved in the TX shootings.
        But as reported in many sources from many angles, there are strong links (same link):
        AMY GOODMAN: While officials have not confirmed a link in the two killings, investigators believe a white supremacist group called the Aryan Brotherhood may be involved. In November, 34 members of the Aryan Brotherhood, including four senior leaders, were indicted by a federal grand jury in Houston for racketeering. Soon after, the Texas Department of Public Safety sent a memo to about 5,000 prosecutors across Texas. It warned them the Aryan Brotherhood might be plotting retaliation against law enforcement officials. Mark Hasse was reportedly "heavily involved" in prosecutions of members of the group. And District Attorney McLelland himself had told the Associated Press the gangs had a strong presence in the area, saying, quote, "We put some real dents in the Aryan Brotherhood around here in the past year."
        And in that context, the Federal Prosecutor in Houston resigned from the case, citing security concerns. Sounds like a bit of evidence to me. Sounds pretty serious if even the Feds don't believe they have strong enough protection.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 12:30:23 AM PDT

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