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  •  I'd like an actual pilot to critique those rolls (2+ / 0-)
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    Otteray Scribe, shortfinals

    cause I see a consistent nose lower at 180 degrees, and that is less nthan perfeect right, and he has to compensate after he is back to 0.

    Now to my not a pilot eye that looks that one may have to apply some forward stick nearing 180? ..or are my dkos remembering skils wandering again?...from some remark by someone recently here...

    This machine kills Fascists.

    by KenBee on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 06:58:18 PM PDT

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    •  They are pretty good. (3+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest, shortfinals, KenBee

      There are lots of different kinds of rolls, each with a different look. I found a short video of an instructor demonstrating different maneuvers.  This shows the different looks of barrel rolls and slow rolls.  He did not do a snap roll. This guy is very smooth and is probably a good instructor.  

      On the other end of the aerobatic spectrum,  Philipp Steinbach, designer of the Sbach aerobatic airplane, says that if a snap roll doesn't hurt, you are doing it wrong.

      The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

      by Otteray Scribe on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 07:30:17 PM PDT

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      •  I think the first video was shot near... (3+ / 0-)

        ...Bankstown Airport, Australia (BWU). but..loose objects in the cockpit!! Nice flying though....

        'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

        by shortfinals on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 07:55:37 PM PDT

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      •  haha, snap rolls are snappy! (3+ / 0-)

        I like the head rolls when the plane stops rolling.

        Those seem very good in the second video, and the first video with a slow roll is what I am trying to babble about.  The horizon stays almost perfectly the same in the windscreen, whereas the previous video with the diary subject plane, the horizon fell 'down'/the nose fell to earth thru the roll and he had to correct after coming back to zero degrees...I vote for your first video's perfect slow roll as 'better'....heh.

        But don't mind me, I ran into an outhouse with a boat.

        This machine kills Fascists.

        by KenBee on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:27:10 PM PDT

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        •  The Sbach has a 420 degree roll rate. (3+ / 0-)
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          That is very fast.  It definitely is not an airplane for a low time pilot. Now the Sbach is fully certified, expect to see a lot of Extras coming on the market at fire sale prices.

          The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

          by Otteray Scribe on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:40:01 PM PDT

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