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  •  A ridiculous argument. (1+ / 0-)
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    As I said upthread, I view illegal border crossing (especially by those seeking work) as about a serious a crime as speeding. But when I got pulled over for doing that one morning, because I was late to work, I didn't get away with arguing that by employers made me break the law because they pressure me to be on time. That's just a silly argument.

    I mean it's as if people are trying so hard to be pro-immigration they're just digging around for any reason to be against a fine. Honestly it's a good deal for deal, though. You get to call me racist and then look like you're morally superior.

    You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

    by Eric Stratton on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 01:31:25 PM PDT

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    •  If all was required was to pay a fine (0+ / 0-)

      to come to the U.S.

      The airports and borders would be jammed with millions of  people, fine in hand.

      In some countries, most of the population
      would immigrate to the U.S. if all they needed was a fine payment.

      •  Sunset clauses in these laws aim to stop that. (0+ / 0-)

        A law passed in 2014, for example, would likely require that the alien demonstrate "physical presence" in the U.S. from 2010 or something like that.  They are past-based, so new folks cannot try.  That would be the "risk" factor, I believe.

        Mix the blood and make new people!

        by Yonkers Boy on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 02:04:39 PM PDT

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        •  What argument would you (0+ / 0-)

          use in the future to justify refusing to give the same deal indefinitely to people who came after this immigration reform?

          The previous immigration reform in 1986 had such a physical presence date yet here we are today saying why we should ignore that date and use this new 2010 physical presence date you speak of?

          •  That is one of the reasons why effective (0+ / 0-)

            smart, rational, comprehensive immigration reform is so important. Without it, it just becomes this cyclical problem in a constant state of flux. Amnesty then, super fee now, something unpredictable 30 years out.

            Mix the blood and make new people!

            by Yonkers Boy on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 11:21:21 AM PDT

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