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  •  Just saying "illegals" would be offensive (9+ / 0-)

    since it characterizes the person as being fundamentally outside the law, but "illegal immigrant" is perfectly legitimate as a descriptive status.  Those who find it problematic because it contains an implicit moral judgment will just have to accept that, because it remains factually accurate.  It may be less judgmental to say "undocumented," but it's also less relevant given that the reason they're undocumented is that they're illegal immigrants.

    I support a number of pro-immigrant measures, but I'm not going to change my language so that people who put their personal interests ahead of the laws of this country can feel better about themselves.

    Going faster miles an hour, with the radio on.

    by Troubadour on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 06:11:54 PM PDT

    •  Completely agree (8+ / 0-)

      "Illegal immigrant" is an accurate phrase.  Their presence in this country is against the law.  "Immigrants who came here illegally and remain here illegally" is perhaps more complete, but "illegal" is a perfectly accurate phrase to describe the states of people who came to this country in violation of the laws of this country and who remain in this country in violation of the laws of this country.  

      I support immigration reform.  I do not, however, believe in changing language so as to cover up the harsh reality that what the people have done is illegal.  They may have had good motives for breaking the law, but when you break the law, you have done something illegal.  And when it's your immigration itself that is illegal, the term "illegal immigrant" is accurate.

      I also completely agree that terms like "wetback" are offensive in all contexts and should never be used.  

    •  except that there are NO laws (0+ / 0-)

      against being in this country without documents. The only laws forbid the employing of those without documents permitting working in this country by non citizens without permission  — such as with green cards.

      So f off.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... *I'm asking you to believe in yours.* Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 04:54:49 PM PDT

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