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  •  Huh (3+ / 0-)
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    a war that could have been replaced by a democratic election of all the Korean people.
    How? That´s pretty unhistoric. It´s also ahistoric (i. e. downright false) to imply that the US in some way might have sought out the Korean war. It hadn´t. The only blame, if blame it be, that could be directed to the US is that it had itself given the impression that Korea was outside its defended perimeter to the communists of the time. When push came to shove Truman decided it wasn´t. So American carelessness certainly contributed to the start of that war. Yet they didnt start it.  

    You can read the wikipedia accout of the origin of the war if you wish. From there,

    As nationalists, both Syngman Rhee and Kim Il-Sung were intent upon reunifying Korea under their own political system.
    If you want to lay blame for that war somewhere, lay it there.
    •  David Halberstam probably has (3+ / 0-)
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      written the best book on the Korean war. It was titled The Coldest Winter. Halberstam does a very good job in explaining the politics that preceded the war. He also writes about the  popularity that Kim Il Sung, the North Korean leader had in all of Korea. This was due to his record as a guerrilla fighter against the brutal Japanese occupation of the country.

      You may also know that during WW II, Kim served as an officer in the Russian army, and that at the end of the war he was placed in the leadership position. The vast majority of all people in Korea loved the man, and there is no question that he would have been elected president of the entire country had there been an election. Since Kim was a communist, the U.S. could never entertain the idea of an election in which the entire country could have voted.

      I know that history is written by the winners. The history we read is likely different than the history that is read in other countries.

      War is costly. Peace is priceless!

      by frostbite on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 03:44:40 PM PDT

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      •  And, instead of half of Koreans (1+ / 0-)
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        spending six decades in a concentration camp, it would have been all of them.

        And Kim Il Sung would, today, be President of all of Korea, instead of just half of it. (Yes, I know he's dead. He's still the President.)

        But I guess that's OK with you, so long as America wasn't involved.

        I disagree... and I suspect that the vast majority of free Koreans today, and a vast majority of the Koreans who are not now, but will someday be free, would take my side over yours.

        The shame of the UN and the West is not that we fought in the Korean war, it is that we left half of the country in the hands of the most oppressive government the world has ever seen. Yes, I understand the strategic and geopolitical reasons for the armistice... but what the Kims have done to millions is simply evil, and we bear some repsonsibility for letting it happen, and letting it continue to happen.


        "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
        "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

        by Leftie Gunner on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 07:14:32 PM PDT

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      •  Kim presumably had some questions (0+ / 0-)

        The UN organized a general election run by Australia and Ukraine, and Kim boycotted it by having soldiers turn away the UN election officials at gunpoint.

        And the only way Kim could win a legitimate election is if you waited until after he'd had a chance to shoot all of his prospective opponents.

        Cho Man-sik and Yuh Woon-Hyung were much more popular moderate socialists who were beloved for fighting the Japanese in Korea as opposed to China. Cho Man-sik's party was the second biggest block in the first South Korean parliament despite the fact that his main base of support was in the North and Kim had already "disappeared" him about a year earlier.

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