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  •  I'd really like to know in her heart of hearts if (12+ / 0-)

    she'd still be open to supporting a chained CPI if George W. Bush was trying to push this to pass.

    •  My first reaction was "hell no!" (11+ / 0-)

      But I'm not so sure. The democrats are changing. Rapidly.

      They over-learned the lessons of the DLC. What may have once been a healthy air of caution between politicians and activists has become toxic and dysfunctional. It's no longer just the unreasonable demands of a few ideologues that raise the ire of the democratic establishment, now regular voters with regular expectations are treated like an unruly mob who can't be catered with any regularity lest the power get to their head.

      Chris Hayes said it very well the other day talking w/Alex Wagner who wondered why the WH didn't embrace the more progressive House budget as a starting point given the fact they'd have to move to the center anyway:

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      Hayes(sorry about lousy MSNBC transcripts):
      great question. one, i think they are substance live committed to something that looks like what they are actually putting forth. now that, i mean, i think they don't actually believe in the -- in the progressive budget . i don't mean that as a knock on them. i believe what they are doing is an accurate representation of the belief system. people inside crunching the numbers, crafting that vision for the country. that document, i think, is kind of an -- an outgrowth, an expression of what they actually believe. i think you're right that throughout the administration there has been a problem insofar as they have started with the sensible centrist kpcompromise in the opening bid of the can conversation and that is happening again with patty murray 's budget in the senate which is more conservative than progressive budget and the progressive budget isn't as far left as ryan budget to the right.
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      you and i talk about this on your show, and we were just talking about this dynamic in the paper show rehearsal we just did. this has an enduring rule of american politics . at least i would say particularly in the last 8 to 10 years, and it has to do with the way the two political colit coalitions political coalitions said. the democrats hate their base and republicans fear theirs. you see that manifested time and time again. there is palpable fear and there is this briseling contempt you often get from professional demattic beltway folks about the whiners and lefties and folks that are disrupting their hearings. i actually think that psychological disposition playes a role in production some of the outcan comes.
      Emphasis mine.

      I hope he digs into that on his show, he's right, the democrats do hate their base.

      •  Thanks for this info. I will watch the video (3+ / 0-)
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        tomorrow.

      •  Yes I seen that but it shows a real weakness (1+ / 0-)
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        In the president.  If he is unable to entertain the opinions of his natural base then he just isn't doing his job.  I don't want him to be like the GOP and only listen to the base but it is to shut the base out completely.  He has consistently done that for four years. I think it translated into a loss of enthusiasm in 2010 and that may repeat itself in 2014.

        I would think that the prez at least has some concern for the future of his party.  Right now he is incoherent.  You can not on one hand say it would be easier to work with pelosi as speaker and on other hand do things that damage the chances of her becoming speaker.

        "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

        by noofsh on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:03:21 PM PDT

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    •  I hate to say this (0+ / 0-)

      but Nancy Pelosi did support Bush in a lot of ways and it seems like she protected his policies by compromising, but perhaps it was just her respecting the office of the President.

      "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

      by zaka1 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 at 11:25:23 PM PDT

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