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  •  Selective recounting of history (1+ / 0-)
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    Radiowalla

    I could make her look bad too if I ignored all the states she won and called even her victories "almost losses."

    On Carter, the failure at Desert One sealed Reagan's victory.  The Iran hostage crisis was a bleeding wound that was not staunched.  Take that out of the equation and Carter could definitely have won reelection.

    "Hidden in the idea of radical openness is an allegiance to machines instead of people." - Jaron Lanier

    by FDRDemocrat on Thu Apr 04, 2013 at 08:17:57 PM PDT

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    •  The point was the crappy campaign. (1+ / 0-)
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      I think the assessment fits.  

      If Secretary Clinton gets in for 2016, she will need a new and more focused team of advisors and handlers.  

      Her 2008 squad were amateurish and full of themselves.  She was not served well by that crew at all.  

      A lot of people called a Reagan landslide many months before the post-Labor Day intensity.  The Iran hostage crisis was certainly a factor, but Carter's presidency was not a strong one, it was ineffective, he failed to communicate to voters, and they picked handsome Ronnie.  

      Most political losses are accumulative affairs.  

    •  Carter had a deal ready with Iran that (0+ / 0-)

      Reagan sabotaged - same treason as Nixon in '68 with the VC.

      Hillary would need a much younger, hipper campaign group. I don't think she can attract those people.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Fri Apr 05, 2013 at 05:11:20 AM PDT

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